Spoils past...

[RobertScorpio]

Back in the ancient days of TMP or KHAN, did any of you know, before they came out, any spoilers? As for Khan, I had heard that Spock was going to die. Then, when he died during the opening sequence, I thought thats what they meant..UNTIL he really died at the end. That was a shocker, probably the best shocker ever in a trek movie, and why the movie plays so well even now....

I was not shocked by Valaris; the 'luring' camera on her face, in crucial episodes, tipped their hand TOO early in the movie.

So..you old buggers...did you know of thing that were going to happen before you saw treks 1-4? Or where those movies pretty much spoil free?

Rob

 

[Shatmandu]

I stay away from spoilers. Always have.

Why would I want to know what's going to happen? That's like going on a date, having an orgasm, and then buying her dinner.

Joe, no lobster

 

[RobertScorpio]

I stay away from spoilers. Always have.

Why would I want to know what's going to happen? That's like going on a date, having an orgasm, and then buying her dinner.

Joe, no lobster

Oh, I agree. I don't like them either. I was just wondering if those who do like spoilers know of things back then, and without the internet back then, how did they find out?

Rob

 

[Christopher]

Back then, movies stayed in theaters far longer, and my family didn't go to movies very often. So I often read the novelizations of movies well before I actually saw the films. That was the case with TMP, and I'm pretty sure it was the case with TWOK as well. So I had the entirety of both films "spoiled" for me, though it's questionable if it counts as a spoiler if you're experiencing the entire story in prose form.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Back then, movies stayed in theaters far longer, and my family didn't go to movies very often. So I often read the novelizations of movies well before I actually saw the films. That was the case with TMP, and I'm pretty sure it was the case with TWOK as well. So I had the entirety of both films "spoiled" for me, though it's questionable if it counts as a spoiler if you're experiencing the entire story in prose form.

Wow, Chris, you just refreshened my memory. I do remember reading the novels of 3 and 4 before they came out. I remember a scene I couldn't wait for, but didn't happen as it did in the book.

When Kirk puts those doctors into the room so Mccoy can operate on Chekov? In the book, one of the doctors try to escape and kirk tries to use the vulcan neck pinch on him; and it worked! But they changed the scene and I was so bummed!

Rob

 

[sbk1234]

I stay away from spoilers. Always have.

Why would I want to know what's going to happen? That's like going on a date, having an orgasm, and then buying her dinner.

Joe, no lobster

You spring for dinner!?

back to the post:

I remember really not knowing if Spock was going to return in ST3. Then, about an hour or two before seeing the film, I saw a magazine cover with Spock on it in his white Vulcan robes. AAARRRGGGGHHHHH!
I was, however totally surprised by the destruction of the Enterprise, so I held onto that spoiler, at least.

Without the internet and about a million cable tv channels with their own showbiz reporting, it was a lot easier to avoid spoilers back then.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I stay away from spoilers. Always have.

Why would I want to know what's going to happen? That's like going on a date, having an orgasm, and then buying her dinner.

Joe, no lobster

You spring for dinner!?

back to the post:

I remember really not knowing if Spock was going to return in ST3. Then, about an hour or two before seeing the film, I saw a magazine cover with Spock on it in his white Vulcan robes. AAARRRGGGGHHHHH!
I was, however totally surprised by the destruction of the Enterprise, so I held onto that spoiler, at least.

Without the internet and about a million cable tv channels with their own showbiz reporting, it was a lot easier to avoid spoilers back then.

as EDITH and ARCHIE would say..."Those were the days"

Rob

 

[Green Shirt]

I read the novelization of TMP before the movie came out.























And saw it anyway.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Green Shirt "I read the novelization of TMP before the movie came out."




I read TMP way back when, but after it came out. Doesn't the battle with the klingons get observed by kirk via a transmitter in his brain? I remember thinking that was a cool idea...

Rob

 

[Green Shirt]

Green Shirt "I read the novelization of TMP before the movie came out."




I read TMP way back when, but after it came out. Doesn't the battle with the klingons get observed by kirk via a transmitter in his brain? I remember thinking that was a cool idea...

Rob

Yeah, that was some kind of alert system that Starfleet used. IIRC, that idea was semi controversial with fans back then, with it smacking of "big brother", or the potential for thought control.

 

[Nerys Myk]

My friends and I always read the novels first (when possiple)

 

[Captain Roberts]

I live in Oceanside, California, and back in early '82, Bjo Trimble at the Public Library brought Space Seed to show on the projector. The real treat, was she had a reel, maybe 2-3 minutes long, that previewed scenes from Khan. We must have watched that a dozen times. In it were alternate takes of shots, and one in particular where Kirk tells Spock:"Your protegee's first rate, perhaps a bit emotional." Spock replies: She's (Saavik) half Romulan, Jim. The admixture makes her more Volitile than me, for example.: Kirk's reply: "Than you? Yes I see that." I was sad to see that it still hasn't made it into any released version. Spoilers work both ways, it can ruin an ending, or ruin an expectation by omission.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I live in Oceanside, California, and back in early '82, Bjo Trimble at the Public Library brought Space Seed to show on the projector. The real treat, was she had a reel, maybe 2-3 minutes long, that previewed scenes from Khan. We must have watched that a dozen times. In it were alternate takes of shots, and one in particular where Kirk tells Spock:"Your protegee's first rate, perhaps a bit emotional." Spock replies: She's (Saavik) half Romulan, Jim. The admixture makes her more Volitile than me, for example.: Kirk's reply: "Than you? Yes I see that." I was sad to see that it still hasn't made it into any released version. Spoilers work both ways, it can ruin an ending, or ruin an expectation by omission.

Good to see you CAPT Roberts. I live down here in Mira Mesa, and I wish I been there in '82 to see that.

Rob

 

[Christopher]

In it were alternate takes of shots, and one in particular where Kirk tells Spock:"Your protegee's first rate, perhaps a bit emotional." Spock replies: She's (Saavik) half Romulan, Jim. The admixture makes her more Volitile than me, for example.: Kirk's reply: "Than you? Yes I see that." I was sad to see that it still hasn't made it into any released version.

It's for the best, though, because it's predicated on a problematical premise: the notion that Romulans are biologically more emotional than Vulcans or humans. That's absurd, since Vulcans and Romulans are the same species, a species that's intrinsically highly volatile. Vulcan emotional control is a learned, cultural trait. Saavik wouldn't be emotional because she was "half-Romulan." It would be a function of her background, her upbringing, not her genes.

There's more than enough illogic in all the constant references in Trek to Spock's human half making him emotional (which is BS, since his Vulcan half is intrinsically more passionate). So I'm glad that nonsensical line about Saavik was cut from the film.

 

[Captain Roberts]

It was an event. Mainly since that back then any new Trek was like gold. We weren't inundated by all the resources at our command now.

 

[RobertScorpio]

It was an event. Mainly since that back then any new Trek was like gold. We weren't inundated by all the resources at our command now.

I am one who thinks STAR TREK had too much glut on the market and I am glad it went away for as long as it did before XI came along..

Rob

 

[Candlelight]

That's like going on a date, having an orgasm, and then buying her dinner.

You mean there's another way?

 

[USS Kongo]

I also read the novelization of TMP, TWOK, the Search For Spock and many other movies of that era, because I could never hear what was being spoken in the theater (I still can't now). So reading the books beforehand back in those days always prepared me for seeing the movie.

These days, I just wait until the film hits video (thank God for closed captioned DVDs and headphones!).

Sean

 

[Shazam!]

Why would I want to know what's going to happen? That's like going on a date, having an orgasm, and then buying her dinner.

LOL That's the worst analogy I've ever heard.

 

[Hober Mallow]

There were rumors Kirk was going to die in TUC, which the studio helped fuel by showing a scene of Kirk seemingly disintigrating in the trailer. In the movie, Kirk's lookalike did indeed disintigrate, but it was a completely different scene. The death scene from the trailer was never shown in the movie.