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Spock's Whoppers

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I recall that someone simply multiplied out all of those million-to-1 Spock Odds against success, and concluded that the Enterprise crew had one chance in several billion of surviving Season One.

Forget about Spock's estimates of the odds, like in "Errand of Mercy":

SPOCK: Difficult to be precise, Captain. I should say approximately 7,824.7 to 1.

Make you own estimates of the odds of survival in various situations, and see how probable they make the survival of the protagonists for the entire series.

What if the Enterprise crew has a 90 percent chance of surviving and only a 10 percent chance of dying in each episode? What are their chances of surviving to the end of the season or the end of the series?

What if you make their odds of survival better, 99 precent, and only 1 percent chance of dying in each episode? What are their chances of surviving all season or all the series? And wouldn't a mere 1 percent chance of dying in each individual episodes make the episode seem rather safe and unexciting?

And what about TNG, DS9, and VOY, which lasted for seven seasons and about 150 to 175 episodes each? How safe and unexciting does each and every episode have to be to give the crew of each series a reasonably high chance of surviving to the end of the series?

The same can be said about any long lasting adventure series. For each episode to be dangerous enough to exciting, the probability of death has to be high enough in each episode that the probabiiity of surviving to the end of the series is shockingly low for any protagonists that you care about.

So that is one reason why I imagine that each and every episode of an adventure series (except for episodes which are clearly sequels to earlier episodes) should happen in an alternate universe of its own, separate from those of other episodes. I picture the creators of the series searching thousands and millions of alternate universes to find a few tens or hundreds of stories where the protagonists face great danger and survive to make episodes of, ignoring the many events in vairous alternate universes where theprotagonists face great danger and die.
 
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One of my favorite weird Spock sequences is in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," when Spock does time travel calculations in his head, after earlier having neglected to check on contributions by Christopher's offspring that might disturb the timeline. I hope Scotty double-checked those figures.

The writing for Spock was just all over the place throughout the entire series. My favorite Spock episodes are the ones where he is just intelligent and yes, logical, not a walking computer - leading to some fantastic lines from him. Off the top of my head examples: "The Doomsday Machine," "The Tholian Web," "The Changeling," "A Taste of Armageddon," "Amok Time," "Wink of an Eye," "Day of the Dove," and "Elaan of Troyius." He's also written very well in "Arena," "Gamesters of Triskelion," "Journey to Babel," and "Operation: Annihilate!" And of course in "City."
 
I’ve always wondered whether Spock was being honest or lying in the final dialogue with the female Romulan commander-- when he said, “I hope that you and I exchanged something more permanent.” (“The Enterprise Incident”)
 
I’ve always wondered whether Spock was being honest or lying in the final dialogue with the female Romulan commander-- when he said, “I hope that you and I exchanged something more permanent.” (“The Enterprise Incident”)
Probably the Vulcanian equivalent of “Of course I’ll call you. Soon!”
 
One of my favorite weird Spock sequences is in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," when Spock does time travel calculations in his head, after earlier having neglected to check on contributions by Christopher's offspring that might disturb the timeline. I hope Scotty double-checked those figures.

The writing for Spock was just all over the place throughout the entire series. My favorite Spock episodes are the ones where he is just intelligent and yes, logical, not a walking computer - leading to some fantastic lines from him. Off the top of my head examples: "The Doomsday Machine," "The Tholian Web," "The Changeling," "A Taste of Armageddon," "Amok Time," "Wink of an Eye," "Day of the Dove," and "Elaan of Troyius." He's also written very well in "Arena," "Gamesters of Triskelion," "Journey to Babel," and "Operation: Annihilate!" And of course in "City."

Committing the grave offense of replying to my own post - hopefully not subject to a "visit Talos IV"-like punishment or the Argelius II penalty for homicide - I just remembered that I should have included "Wolf in the Fold." Spock is extremely well-written in that one as well. Ditto "Space Seed" and "The Devil in the Dark" - even though he does offer an odds calculation in the latter.
 
Forget about Spock's estimates of the odds, like in "Errand of Mercy":



Make you own estimates of the odds of survival in various situations, and see how probable they make the survival of the protagonists for the entire series.

What if the Enterprise crew has a 90 percent chance of surviving and only a 10 percent chance of dying in each episode? what are their chances of surviving to the end of eh season or the send of the series?

What if you make their odds of survival better, 99 precent and only 1 percent chance of dying in each episode? What are their chances of surviving all season or all the series? And wouldn't a mera.1 percent chance of dying in each individual episodes make the episode seem rather safe and unexciting?

And what about TNG, DS9, and VOY, which lasted for seven seasons and about 150 to 175 episodes each? How safe and unexciting does each and every episode have to be to give the crew of each series a reasonably high chance of surviving to the end of the series?

The same can be said about any long lasting adventure series. For each episode to be dangerous enough to exciting, the probability of death has to be high enough in each episode that the probabiiity of surviving to the end of the series is shockingly low for any protagonists that you care about.

So that is one reason why I imagine that each and every episode of an adventure series (except for episodes which are clearly sequels to earlier episodes) should happen in an alternate universe of its own, separate from those of other episodes. I picture the creators of the series searching thousands and millions of alternate universes to find a few tens or hundreds of stories where the protagonists face great danger and survive to make episodes of, ignoring the many events in vairous alternate universes where theprotagonists face great danger and die.
The "problem" with this is that at least one of those infinite dimensional variants has all the chief protagonists surviving each and every one of the deadly challenges they face. The show we watch is more likely one of those. even if the creators don't realize they're showing the adventures of the same variant each week.
 
I think the only time Spock himself made any comment about it was in "The Enterprise Incident."

Commander: There's a well-known saying, or is it a myth, that Vulcans are incapable of lying?
Spock: It is no myth.

And this was part of a spy mission, which by its very nature is a big deception. So Spock would have said whatever was necessary for the sake of that mission.

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I recall that someone simply multiplied out all of those million-to-1 Spock Odds against success, and concluded that the Enterprise crew had one chance in several billion of surviving Season One.

As an earlier poster commented, if the Enterprise had a 90% chance of surviving each of the 79 episodes, their overall chance of surviving all those missions would be roughly 4000 to 1 against. Not good odds. 99% per adventure would put them at almost 2 to 1 against. Not great, but much better!
 
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