Spock & McCoy...the Movies.

[Timewalker]

I'm pretty sure I can tell you exactly that. For starters, people whose profession is getting around long distances in vehicles get lost on foot all the time, and that's what makes the joke funny for those of us who find it so. They don't have the frame of reference for foot travel in the latter setting, and can easily lose sense of direction.

Okay, I'll concede that, given my RL experiences with trying to give people directions to my home. I don't drive, so when they ask me "how many traffic lights between ___ and ___?" I'm completely baffled. How should I know? I either take buses or cabs, and I don't need to know how many traffic lights there are.

So I tell them to find a particular well-known neighborhood landmark and tell them which direction to go: "Find ______ (a corner hamburger fast-food joint) and head north, up the hill."

The next words out of their mouth are: "Which way is north?"

My reaction:

It can be difficult to figure out which way is north in a city with skyscrapers all over the place so you can't see the sun. But this part of town has no skyscrapers. There's no excuse at all for not being able to figure out which way is north!

Beyond that, to expect the movie to NOT center on the Big 3, and to give the other 4 a ton of stuff to do, is unrealistic.

Who said anything about "tons"? All I wanted was one or two scenes of them doing or saying something that was in character, and important to the overall story. The crap we were shown was neither in character, nor did it enhance the movie in any way.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'm pretty sure I can tell you exactly that. For starters, people whose profession is getting around long distances in vehicles get lost on foot all the time, and that's what makes the joke funny for those of us who find it so. They don't have the frame of reference for foot travel in the latter setting, and can easily lose sense of direction.

Not buying it. Both had landing party experience.

Secondly, Scotty's had three weeks since the shakedown cruise ended to familiarize himself with the ins and outs of the new ship. The assumption that he's so good at engineering that he can memorize Jefferies tube layouts which are probably different than they were on the last ship in that time is problematic at best, and can be as insulting as the little bonk on the head he got for swaggering when he should have been looking where he was going.

Not buying it. When was the last time you knocked yourself out cold by hitting your head while walking in an unfamiliar environment? For me and almost everyone, it's:


(wait for it)


never.

I wasn't taken out of the movie by it.

That makes one of us.

 

[FormerLurker]

You're just being contrary.

 

[Nyotarules]

A friendship based on racial insults, personally I would pass on that. But then me being the brunt of racial insults as a child was never my idea of funny.
However the actors make it work.

 

[Nyotarules]

"That green blooded son-of-a bitch. It's his revenge for losing all those arguments!"

20th/21st century version
"That black son-of-a bitch. It's his revenge for losing all those arguments"

Still funny?

 

[Timewalker]

You're just being contrary.

No, I'm just being honest. If you don't agree, then fine. There's no need to get insulting about it.

 

[FormerLurker]

No, I'm just being honest. If you don't agree, then fine. There's no need to get insulting about it.

I was responding to CorporalCaptain, not you. And I was being subtle, or I would have winked, because his response to me was borderline insulting. And the border was bulging.

 

[Timewalker]

I was responding to CorporalCaptain, not you. And I was being subtle, or I would have winked, because his response to me was borderline insulting. And the border was bulging.

To clarify, I had not seen CorporalCaptain's post when I made mine. Having reviewed it just now, I am in agreement with him.

 

[Phoenix219]

I am in full agreement with FormerLurker. As a Former Lurker myself......

 

[A beaker full of death]

I've always felt the extended argument about the Genesis project was one of the best (and the last) Spock/McCoy arguments. They actually staked out different sides of an issue and had at it. It's a shame it was cut down in the theatrical version.

 

[Galileo7]

I liked the brief McCoy/Spock "conflict" humor in TFF brig scene when McCoy offers Kirk to hold Spock so he can hit him.

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[Mojochi]

People only come back to the same person to argue/bicker/debate if there is a mutual respect & admiration. I never doubted for a second those two had an abundance of both for each other

 

[RColtrane]

I liked the brief McCoy/Spock "conflict" humor in TFF brig scene when McCoy offers Kirk to hold Spock so he can hit him.

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There's one thing I do not understand in this jailbreak scene: If the wall is made of pure metal (as it seems since some corners are bent after the explosion and the wall is quite thin) where do all that dust come from?? Yes, it is dust, not smoke, as you can see some of the dust over their shoulders! And during the explosion, you can see some large debris flying which do not look like metal at all! It looks like a wall of bricks exploding rather than a wall made of metal...
Man, the effects crew hired for this movie is umbelievable.