Spock completely sucks...

[Shat Happens]

... at diplomacy.

For starters: He couldn't reach an agreement with his own Dad (an actual literal diplomat) for many years. Sarek almost died too.

(in Star Trek VI) Not a single good thing happened because of his attempt with the Klings: The Empire and the Federation almost almost ALMOST went to an all-out war. All the Admirals and even Chekov, who had half of his brain eaten by a bug in ST2 and the other half smashed in ST4, could see right on it was a terrible idea. The only one who believed him from the start was Gorkon-- and guess what: he was killed. Kirk and Bones almost died two weeks from retirement (to add insult to injury).

Then Unification. Ugh. The green blooded hobgoblin almost got Vulcan INVADED this time. I cant even.

It's firmly established in canon(1) that Sela has his head mounted on a plaque in her office.

(1)-my head canon. If I have to disconsider all Star Trek since ENT, then make it so.

 

[fireproof78]

For starters: He couldn't reach an agreement with his own Dad (an actual literal diplomat) for many years. Sarek almost died too

False equivalence.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

If the Khitomer conspiracy hadn't occurred, you could argue that Gorkon's peace initiative would have been even more successful than it ended up being.

 

[Tosk]

It's firmly established in canon(1) that Sela has his head mounted on a plaque in her office.

(1)-my head canon. If I have to disconsider all Star Trek since ENT, then make it so.

How did she retrieve it from the alternate timeline he died in?

 

[Shat Happens]

How did she retrieve it from the alternate timeline he died in?

Agents from the Federation Bureau of Temporal Investigation went to the JJ-verse, faked his death there and brought him back (it was easy because they already had him in Kirk's file under 'known accomplices')

 

[Tosk]

Nice of them to bother faking the death of someone they killed.

 

[Oddish]

Except Sela doesn't have an office on Romulus anymore. Or technically, she never did. Because after she was sacked from the Romulan military and sent to prison for losing Spock, she drifted aimlessly for awhile, disillusioned with the Romulan military and still guilt stricken at her mother's death. Finally, she found a way to send herself back in time, and she went back to the day before Tasha's failed escape attempt. Putting on a hood, she approached Tasha and handed her a hypo spray containing a harmless sedative. Tasha had the good sense to use it, and escaped successfully, making her way back to the Federation, and freedom.

You create an AU, I'll create an AU.

 

[Tosk]

My AU is that after the failed invasion of Vulcan, Sela spent a lot of time just sitting around and pining for the good old days. About a year later, she slipped on a discarded osol twist wrapper and died.

Very sad.

 

[publiusr]

Some folks just have bad luck. I have to work at being a failure

 

[Mojochi]

So... two? 2 diplomatic initiatives over the course of a lifetime in service to diplomacy, and those two were arguably involving the most contentious relationships the Federation ever had.

Also consider that he never really expected the Reunification initiative to work, at least not right then, like everyone was imagining.

It was an olive branch to something of a grassroots faction forming on Romulus. I'm sure he absolutely expected some underhanded scheme to torpedo it, but considered the risk minimal, & the offering truly profound

That dumb Sela plan was never going to work anyhow. It's the most ridiculous nonsense a Romulan has ever proposed. A hidden fleet of some ships is going to occupy a Federation core world? GTFO of here. The whole thing smacks of her command just giving her enough rope to hang herself with, so to be rid of a pretty annoying half-human, that's probably been a constant pain in their ass for years

I think of that Sela nonsense as though it was the opposite of the Jarok business. He pushed about not wanting war, & she pushed about taking the fight to the UFP bigger. I figure they were likely disappointed she'd never been murdered by Klingons back during Redemption. This Spock thing probably gave them another opportunity to have her dig her own grave. No one was taking that blonde dipshit seriously on Romulus. I'm sure of it. They just let it go on to be a nuisance to Starfleet.

 

[Sci]

Spock's diplomatic efforts ended the Federation's longest-running conflicts. The Klingons became allies and every attempt to rekindle the old rivalry failed -- and the Romulans not only stopped being Federation enemies, but reunited with the Vulcan people and became Federation citizens. Not only Federation citizens, but became as a whole more supportive of the Federation than the Vulcan people.

That's a pretty amazing diplomatic track record.