Speculation: Vulcans & Jem Hadar

[TerokNor]

2- If Cardassians can resist the meld, I bet Jem'Hadar can too.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

Agreed. I also doubt the JH could resist a mind meld. They did not receive such mental discipline training than the Cardassians. I also think that it might be not ALL Cardassians who can risists a mind meld. Dukat resisted one, but I guess he received a very good training. The ones with lesser training might not.
Also I guess even the most trained Cardassian could get "mind melded" when made drunk or otherwise druged up before, not?

TerokNor

 

[Hermiod]

2- If Cardassians can resist the meld, I bet Jem'Hadar can too.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

I thought this was specific to members of the Cardassian military who had the appropriate training and not a general racial trait.

We've seen Spock mind meld with lifeforms a lot further removed from Vulcans than Cardassians - a Horta, V'Ger etc.

As we saw Bashir resist the Romulan technological version, I'm guessing he could resist a mind-meld as well.

 

[Gul Re'jal]

So if ability to resist a meld by a Cardassian was an individual characteristic, not general, due to their training, abilities, etc. then assuming Jem'Hadar can resist too, because Cardassians can is even less an argument.

 

[TerokNor]

Whats actually with Betazoid Telepacy? I read a story were the disciplined cardassian mind could also not be entered by the Betazioids. Is that also canon or only fanfiction?

TerokNor

 

[Hermiod]

^No Betazoid has been seen attempting to read a Cardassian's mind.

 

[Marie1]

2- If Cardassians can resist the meld, I bet Jem'Hadar can too.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

2- If Cardassians can resist the meld, I bet Jem'Hadar can too.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

Agreed. I also doubt the JH could resist a mind meld. They did not receive such mental discipline training than the Cardassians. I also think that it might be not ALL Cardassians who can risists a mind meld. Dukat resisted one, but I guess he received a very good training. The ones with lesser training might not.
Also I guess even the most trained Cardassian could get "mind melded" when made drunk or otherwise druged up before, not?

TerokNor

2- If Cardassians can resist the meld, I bet Jem'Hadar can too.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

I thought this was specific to members of the Cardassian military who had the appropriate training and not a general racial trait.

We've seen Spock mind meld with lifeforms a lot further removed from Vulcans than Cardassians - a Horta, V'Ger etc.

As we saw Bashir resist the Romulan technological version, I'm guessing he could resist a mind-meld as well.

Nothing to do with being reptilian at all. It's control of the mind- Cardassians go through intensive training- not just specific branches of the military (according to Dukat) but a great deal of the kids.

Jem'hadar have a lot of mental control too- they need to clear their minds and focus to shroud for instance, which is why they can't fight and shroud at the same time. Thus, I believe they'd be able to resist a meld. They can control their brains very, very well.

 

[Photon]

2- If Cardassians can resist the meld, I bet Jem'Hadar can too.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

Why? Because both races are reptile in origin?

Cardassians can resist a mind meld thanks to their discipline of mind, not to their reptilian heritage. I see no direct connection linking those two.

I thought this was specific to members of the Cardassian military who had the appropriate training and not a general racial trait.

We've seen Spock mind meld with lifeforms a lot further removed from Vulcans than Cardassians - a Horta, V'Ger etc.

As we saw Bashir resist the Romulan technological version, I'm guessing he could resist a mind-meld as well.

Nothing to do with being reptilian at all. It's control of the mind- Cardassians go through intensive training- not just specific branches of the military (according to Dukat) but a great deal of the kids.

Jem'hadar have a lot of mental control too- they need to clear their minds and focus to shroud for instance, which is why they can't fight and shroud at the same time. Thus, I believe they'd be able to resist a meld. They can control their brains very, very well.

Bet you could get 'em when the white is low

 

[Marie1]

^ I don't think anyone with half a brain goes near them then...

They're at their most violent, after all...