Was it not firmly established in Prime Factors that the spatial trajector matrix technology could only ever work in proximity to the planet Sikaris due to conditions unique to that planet?
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I thought it was a kind of weak part of the episode, I mean it was a cool call back and it isn't beyond the realms that the Borg would assimilate that technology and adapt it. But the weak part for me - WHY the fuck would the Queen need it? Going back in time didn't seem to stop her popping up again, unless every Queen is different. She always seemed like a manifestation of the Borg's collective consciousness. Not apart from it or distinct, but the actual consciousness itself. So why would she ever need to really escape?
Well not only that, but the Battle of Wolf 359 took place in 2367 (before Voyager visited Sikaris in 2371). It's later revealed that the same Borg queen as in First Contact was with Locutus there, and she escaped in some way that is implied to be by similar means as what we see in the queencell. When Picard asks her about it, she says "You think in such three-dimensional terms." So did we really need the Sikarian explanation when the Borg already had a very similar capability?
Like, why? Did the last escape technology only have a range of thirty-five thousand lightyears or something?
Like, why? Did the last escape technology only have a range of thirty-five thousand lightyears or something?
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Maybe activating new queens or building new queens is a resource intensive task. Not something to be built trivilially like a drone.
I assumed that the Borg can generate new queens as needed after a queen dies.
What they say is this:
http://www.chakoteya.net/Voyager/109.htm
SESKA: The trajector field is bigger than anything we've created by ten orders of magnitude.
CAREY: To get a field that size, you'd need an amplifier as big as a planet!
SESKA: I don't understand. How do they get that kind of amplification?
TORRES: I'll show you. Sikaris has a mantle of tetrahedral quartz twenty kilometres thick. The crystalline structure of the mantle seems to focus and amplify the trajector field.
CAREY: If that's how the power transfer occurs, then once we leave orbit we loose the ability to traject.
On the one hand, they're not trying to traject an entire ship, like a Borg Sphere (let alone Cube), just a humanoid. And on the other, they're doing it within the Cube, not from orbital distance. Both could conceivably reduce the field strength required markedly (e.g., an electric field diminishes by the square of the distance) - the effect becomes more like ST '09's interstellar transports or transporting Kira straight from DS9 to Empok Nor than a mega-warp drive.SESKA: The trajector field is bigger than anything we've created by ten orders of magnitude.
CAREY: To get a field that size, you'd need an amplifier as big as a planet!
SESKA: I don't understand. How do they get that kind of amplification?
TORRES: I'll show you. Sikaris has a mantle of tetrahedral quartz twenty kilometres thick. The crystalline structure of the mantle seems to focus and amplify the trajector field.
CAREY: If that's how the power transfer occurs, then once we leave orbit we loose the ability to traject.
Also, the Borg have assimilated a lot of minds from a lot of worlds, it's also possible they put together the knowledge of the trajector with a knowledge of how to create the required field strength for a (mini-)trajector.
(Also "TORRES: We didn't anticipate anti-neutrinos. The trajector could never be compatible with Federation technology. ")
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I always thought She was talking in terms of her presence being there through the Collective Mind.
Maybe it was so the queen could transit between other cubes and installations. Or to facilitate easier shift changes between the Alice krige queen and the Susanna Thompson Queen clearly they had a rotating roster.
My bet is that it's used as Escape Portal, why else would they only hide that portal in the Queen's chamber.
it would seem the Queen doesn't need a portal in order to escape: all she needs is a subspace channel, which allows her mind (or its local fragment, at any rate) to hop onto the next waiting body, be it of the Thompson or Krige stock.
Can the trajector operate in situations where subspace is being jammed? It would be nice backup for maintaining the Collective link, then. But sending physical packages across great distances sounds like something you'd want to do as far away from the Queen as possible: precious packages might be risky ones, ranging from prisoners to almost-stable Omega molecules.
Timo Saloniemi
Can the trajector operate in situations where subspace is being jammed? It would be nice backup for maintaining the Collective link, then. But sending physical packages across great distances sounds like something you'd want to do as far away from the Queen as possible: precious packages might be risky ones, ranging from prisoners to almost-stable Omega molecules.
Timo Saloniemi
A SubSpace channel requires the other side to have a active connected connection. No point in uploading your mind if the other side isn't actively connected.
There's been plenty of situations where a StarShip can't communicate with the outside via SubSpace communications.
So it doesn't hurt that you have a backup escape plan if you can't upload your mind.
Also the user-facing component of the trajector in Voyager was a platform that operated like a transporter whereas the Borg one is a portal, more like an Iconian gateway.
What if the Borg have divided themselves up into smaller collective cells? If Voyager did inflict severe damage, then maybe the Borg adapted and protect themselves from such future attacks by not having a single collective consciousness. This would facilitate the need to have overseeing Borg Queens meet up to divulge knew information every now and then.
That's how I took it. Any given Queen can be replaced when needed, but they'd rather avoid it, if possible. The Borg always want the most efficient solution, and it's simply more efficient to arrange escape for an existing Queen than it is to regenerate a new one.
