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Space, another frontier to conquer

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"These are the voyages of the Imperial Klingon Battlecruiser "Devastator".
It's ongoing mission to discover strange new worlds, conquer and enslave new civillisations and exploit resources no one has ever exploited before."
Seriously, though........................!
Given that in TOS Klingons are aggressive, warlike, sneaky, extremely pragmatic, driven to succeed, resource poor and always watched, what would our favourite TOS episodes look like with TOS Klingons as the protagonists?
As a starter:-
WNMHGB:- Captain would have ordered increased surveillance on the PSI empowered officer and have a security "hit squad" standing by.
The surveillance team would have noticed vastly increasing abilities, so the Captain would be aware he had a major problem far sooner than Kirk did. He would get the PSI empowered examined and use sensors to examine the energy field also, to try to understand (and use for his benefit) how, why and what was happening, and if it was able to be controlled and repeated at will. In the end, knowing power and domination far better than any Human, he would destroy the PSI empowered in a tactically planned assualt. Yes, heavy losses would be expected, but in the end the PSI empowered would be overwhelmed by sheer volume of firepower.
NB - I would love to raise this thread around John M Ford's Final Reflection (and Battlecruiser Vengeance!) but that commits the unforgiveable sin of being "not canon", so I had better just stay with canon TOS Klingons.
 
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I think the Klingons would have tried to neutralize their "Mitchell," then study him to see if the abilities could be replicated and weaponized.
 
Yes, for as long as they could keep him subdued. But, assuming a similar progression to Mitchell, that wouldn't be for too long.
 
Dealing with monsters, such as in "Man Trap", would appear straightforward. Heck, Kirk believed in the straightforward originally, too...

But "Mudd's Women" would probably play out a bit differently. A human trader is captured while trying to evade Denebian justice - and Captain Kork sees an immediate use for his self-loading cargo, as devious infiltrators who get basically everywhere.

"The Enemy Within" has Kork split into his evil and bad halves, which work so much more efficiently than the original that the Empire intervenes and gives the bad Kork his own ship before any slaying can take place. Meanwhile, some inconsequential underlings freeze.

In "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", Kork gets usurped by an utterly heartless and ruthless android. While Kork slays other androids left and right below the planet's surface, the Empire again intervenes and promotes the duplicate.

In "The Naked Time", the crew gets drunk as skunks from a space disease. Nobody notices anything amiss.

Etc.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Timo said:
Dealing with monsters, such as in "Man Trap", would appear straightforward. Heck, Kirk believed in the straightforward originally, too...

But "Mudd's Women" would probably play out a bit differently. A human trader is captured while trying to evade Denebian justice - and Captain Kork sees an immediate use for his self-loading cargo, as devious infiltrators who get basically everywhere.

"The Enemy Within" has Kork split into his evil and bad halves, which work so much more efficiently than the original that the Empire intervenes and gives the bad Kork his own ship before any slaying can take place. Meanwhile, some inconsequential underlings freeze.

In "What Are Little Girls Made Of?", Kork gets usurped by an utterly heartless and ruthless android. While Kork slays other androids left and right below the planet's surface, the Empire again intervenes and promotes the duplicate.

In "The Naked Time", the crew gets drunk as skunks from a space disease. Nobody notices anything amiss.

Etc.

Timo Saloniemi
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This makes me wish for a photoshopped pic of Kirk as a mustachioed Klingon.

Kor
 
Mirror mirror would see the transplanted crew dismayed and disgusted by the weak and feeble Mirror Klingons. They actively betray them to a Mirror Starfleet ship, and then work to take over positions of power on that Starfleet ship, while learning all its tech, strong and weak points in case/when they return to the normal universe.
 
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For Shore Leave the Klingon crew would have a ball, dreaming up all sorts of threats to fight and outwit and hunt. High casualties would force the captain to cancel shore leave eventually, or lose too many crew. But it would be glorious while it lasted.
 
In the course of this thread I have been forcing myself not to reference "The Final Reflection" in any way (so as to keep strictly to canon). But in so doing I have gained a deeper respect for TFR (which was already very high). Imho, there is no aspect, quote or potrayal of TFR Klingons that in any way contradicts the TOS Klingons, as seen on screen.
For me the on screen Klingons are the "on the surface" portrayal, as viewed through Human prejudice and limited understanding. The TFR ones are the same people, but from their own, in-depth, detailed perspective.
Every motivation, drive and cultural nuance that makes up the TOS Klingons is explained and expounded on further in TFR.
Which, once more makes me both want to run another Klingon Role-playing game campaign, and NOW!! And make me incredibly sorry that this amazing work was so soundly written out of Trek canon from TNG onwards.
 
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So (going a bit off topic!) what would Worf ("Korf" ) look like if he had been based on TFR Klingons?
I think he would have been even more idealistic, and would have had to struggle even harder to go against his physiology and his culture, in order to be a good Starfleet officer. He would play Klin Zha Kinta in the holodeck, still drink fruit juice (but now also Kafei) in Ten forward. He would venerate an all too pragmatic, cunning, unspiritual Khaless, making his Starfleet side even harder to maintain. He would avoid Deanna and her "mind-snoop", probably still respect Riker, and (grudgingly) respect Piccard as his leader. Although in private think of Piccard as tokhe straav.
Maybe all in all a more complex and maybe interesting character?
Anyway back to TOS.
 
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C57D said:
Yes, for as long as they could keep him subdued. But, assuming a similar progression to Mitchell, that wouldn't be for too long.
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They would've killed him at the first sign of trouble.
 
COTEOF. The Klingon captain recites love poetry, while K'Ellar throws things at him.

Errand of Mercy. Similar story, but completely from Kor's point of view.

Operation: Annihilate. The Klingon captain nukes the planet from orbit, it was the only way to be sure.
 
BillJ said:
They would've killed him at the first sign of trouble.
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Totally. TOS Klingons know power and domination better than anyone. They would not sit around and watch while a threat was allowed to grow and gain more power. Constant surveillance would quickly demonstrate the growing problem and a large security squad, armed to the teeth, would be standing by ready to strike.
 
and a large security squad, armed to the teeth, would be standing by ready to strike.
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ahh, but if you wait a moment too long, the squad would be useless.

at the same time mitchell might be a powerful asset, so would a klingon captain be tempted to wait and see?
 
Tenacity said:
ahh, but if you wait a moment too long, the squad would be useless.

at the same time mitchell might be a powerful asset, so would a klingon captain be tempted to wait and see?
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If we were writing for "Star Trek-Battlecruiser Devastator" (now that would be a sweet gig!!) then we would certainly use this as a point of dramatic tension in the script.
Klingon captain's desire to weaponise the effect vs Klingon Mitchell's growing power.
Will greed for power make the captain wait too long to remove the threat? Is K'(Mi)tchell already stronger then the captain knows (is he using his powers to deceive the surveillance?).
Has K'tchell infiltrated the mind of the security assault squad team leader?
Is the medical/science officer hoarding the test results for his own use, and only giving the captain partial results, while encouraging him to extend the testing for longer than his gut instinct tells him is safe?
Tune in next week to "Battlecruiser Devastator".
 
Kor said:
This makes me wish for a photoshopped pic of Kirk as a mustachioed Klingon.

Kor
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Kor said:
Fantastic. :techman:

Kor
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*blush* Thanks! It was a bit rough cut, would be more than happy to even out the seams and cherry red nose blotches... I was pressed for time but the more I tinkered the more I thought he would have made a great TOS Klingon, along the ranks of Kor and Kane - there's always been a formidable look about Kirk. If only there were an actual season 4... and written by DC Fontana, of course. :D She's the best... (I borrowed the snaps from "Day of the Dove" and "Mirror Mirror"...) Spent most of the time mimicking the boot polish makeup but didn't see the problem with the beard until after uploading...
 
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