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Space 1999!!!

I’d like to see a sci-fi show styled after how futurists imagined 2021 in 1950.

Flying vintage cars, tropical Venus vacations, newspapers mass produced and delivered to your doorstep at the speed of sound through a network of tubes.
We already have Futurama.

Seriously though, I have wondered lately if ideas like that have an appeal to a younger generation? Having recently turned 50 and subsequently feeling old AF I think about how the 50s were only 20 years back or so when I was born and even then it felt so remote to the current world. Now it's so far back I don't know if it still has that retro appeal to a new generation or does that belong to say the 80s now? It just seems our pop culture touchstones are so far removed.
 
Futurama is a comedy that focused more on modern celebrities heads and playing with sci-fi tropes than futurism.

I mean a serious space opera that takes place in 1950’s vision of 2021. The only comedy element is the world building. Communist plots to take over Mars (With slogans that riff off the RED planet), children going to the moon to play in low gravity. Moon Olympics.

Mad Men appealed enough to younger people, so did That 70s Show. And people in their 20s are old enough to have gone to the Future Sphere. Making fun of old people’s outdated ideas is universal and I think the aesthetics from the 50s through 70s still hold a half mocking fascination, more so than the 90s which is more full mocking.
 
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Ah, yes, Ryan watch the video before posting. :p

Okay, bleach his hair and paint him white... not much better. I read that as she tried to bleach his skin (which is a thing) ... although painting him white is just about the same.

Holy Landau... what the hell.
I mean, if you look at the conversation from 10,000 feet, the points would be these. They tried the purple wigs, and they worked.* Sometimes they tried other things, they didn't work.

The detail about race isn't even necessarily relevant in the story that for the aliens they tested makeup and hair bleach that didn't work, before finding the something else that did work. That story could have begun and ended with something like that they tried makeup of aliens as people but colored as if for photographic negatives, and that didn't work, bad idea, and left it at that.

* - In her opinion; but I agree, the wigs worked. I think she's right that the simplicity of the haircut is a major reason they work. YMMV.
 
speaking of Landau (and Bain) in another video, Sylvia Anderson makes it obvious that she's not fan of theirs.

I do recall Sylvia Anderson wanted Robert Culp as Commander Koenig and Jenny Aguitter as Dr. Russell. TBH, I think I would've preferred that too as much as I like Martin Landau.
 
It's just something you wouldn't expect to hear today, both her terminology as well as trying to change skin color. Sitting here from my ivory tower in 2021 it was rather jarring. That youtube video alone is 12 years old and no telling when it was actually recorded.
 
I do recall Sylvia Anderson wanted Robert Culp as Commander Koenig and Jenny Aguitter as Dr. Russell. TBH, I think I would've preferred that too as much as I like Martin Landau.
I remember reading that about Robert Culp - I think in an early Starlog magazine - but with Katherine Ross as Dr. Russell.
 
I do recall Sylvia Anderson wanted Robert Culp as Commander Koenig and Jenny Aguitter as Dr. Russell. TBH, I think I would've preferred that too as much as I like Martin Landau.

If you watch the "UFO 2 Space: 1999" video on the Gerry Anderson YouTube channel, the reason Culp was rejected was because he wanted to write and direct for the series and Gerry had a problem with that.
 
I remember reading that about Robert Culp - I think in an early Starlog magazine - but with Katherine Ross as Dr. Russell.

Oh then I must be misremembering which actress she wanted.

If you watch the "UFO 2 Space: 1999" video on the Gerry Anderson YouTube channel, the reason Culp was rejected was because he wanted to write and direct for the series and Gerry had a problem with that.

That's too bad because Culp is a good writer. He wrote many of the better I Spy episodes, including "The Loser" featuring Eartha Kitt.
 
That's too bad because Culp is a good writer. He wrote many of the better I Spy episodes, including "The Loser" featuring Eartha Kitt.

If you can a copy, I would recommend Robert Culp's only feature film directorial effort 'Hickey & Boggs', which reunited him with his 'I Spy' co-star Bill Cosby.

My local library system used to have a copy, but then pulled it following the allegations against Cosby.
 
Hickey &Boggs is a great forgotten gem.Probably deemed problematic today because of Cosby but a great slice of So-Cal noir.

Culp has always been a favourite actor of mine but I have to say that he may have been a little too “warm” for the part of Koenig.Landau’s remote performance suited the mutedtones of Alpha IMO
 
UFO is on there too, and I'm thinking about checking it out since I've never seen any of it before.

My local library system has both U.F.O. and Space: 1999 on Blu-Ray.

I've checked out both seasons of Space: 1999 and I'm on the waiting list for U.F.O., because I've never watched the complete series before and it should be interesting.

I saw a fair amount of UFO as a kid and loved it, and then for a great many years didn't see any at all. Then I found a handful of episodes on VHS and thought, there's more to this than I remembered. More years pass and eventually I get it on DVD, watch it all the way through, and think, wow. People should really be more aware of UFO. There's significantly more characterization than there is in Space: 1999 and a surprising variety of types of stories. Sure, most of them will have similar special effects sequences of shootouts with UFOs and interceptors or Sky 1, but there are really trippy episodes, really paranoid episodes, almost soap opera stories, and straightforward SF stories. It's dated in any number of ways but so's everything from fifty years ago. It still looks pretty darn good, too. And the idea that an international alien-fighting task force is concealed under a movie studio isn't nearly as preposterous as the moon flying around the universe and coming to a new planet every week.
 
I could see it and the world of 2001 sharing an origin
Regarding f/x quality, sure.

"2001", unlike S1999, has no alien exploration or involvement at all - though more people ask if there is. Note the obelisk's shape and dimensions, the repetition of it in even the most innocuous of places, and there's much fun to be had. A movie that has a lot of people never getting a handle on it, myself included, some ask if the obelisk is door... a door that doesn't have a handle... and is a metaphor anyway. If you think of the obelisk as "the doorway" but tilted 90 degrees, you get the answer to a different question. But that's a bit out there, isn't it, to suggest the obelisk is a dimensional doorway as metaphor for the movie projector screen everyone's gawking at to see this little show someone penned then produced?

And each show is in its own universe, and this is where your point has far more piquancy, is that all the Alphans were knocked out and left to slowly die in the moon accident and they're living out these notions in the last minutes before death. At literal value, S1999's premise is the most asinine. Especially when the episodes hype up the laws of physics (while apparently nonplussed over what happened to Alpha and all events since, which are impossible due to the laws of physics - specifically that involving velocity.) But the show always went above and beyond the mere literal, and fairly great ways too... So, why not, the Alphans are fallen to the floor and all these memories are conjured up by them to while away the time. Creating their own shows they see to escape the reality of their situation, with their mind being the other side of an obelisk. If "War Games" was potent before and it's an outright fantastic episode no matter how you go into this show and its premise (overlooking or accepting the literal setup at face value)...

If the Alphans imagined their own situations they saw on the projector screen of their mind, S1999 is just a variation of the same theme. The only difference is, 2001 is a more literal and tangible shared experience. Not to mention, they say LSD addicts saved the movie from being a flop because of the slit-scan effects at the end... and slit-scan involves an opaque rectangular board with a slit in it to constrain the details regarding the effects' creation too... there's more meta in the slight of hand reflectrions than in a barrel of Metamucil... :D
 
The moonbase model is the same. I thought Kubrick tried to have all that destroyed

Do you mean the exterior shots on the moon, such as Clavius Base? Those weren't models. They were all hand painted. (ALL of the exterior Moon shots were hand painted, actually.)

Although it is true that Kubrick had all of the interior Discovery sets, such as the centrifuge, destroyed. :wah:
 
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