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Sovereign class bridge floor plan?

The new Haynes Enterprise Manual has a pretty good image of the Sovereign bridge plan.
 
Incidentally, do you prefer an accurate set plan, or a plan that might reflect the design of the "real" bridge? Those aren't necessarily the same thing... After all, if the bridge is located on the very top of the ship, Picard's Ready Room doesn't fit there - it'll protrude past the hull into space.

OTOH, if the bridge is lowered a little bit to fit the RR, then the aft lounge won't be a few steps down from the bridge - it'll be a few steps up.

Which shouldn't be a problem: the E-D lounge was separated from the bridge by a length of corridor and steps/ramps that we never really saw (and that were never really built into an actual set element, not in full). However, the E-E set was actually built with the lounge included in the whole, and thus we get this shot:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/firstcontacthd/firstcontacthd1697.jpg

It's a bit difficult to explain that away in a manner that would preserve "spatial plausibility" - unless we say the entire bridge/lounge area features a tilted floor that slopes rather sharply down towards the bow...

Timo Saloniemi
 
I mean, like a floor plan. Like one I posted in the Opening Post. That kind of, but I need Sovereign one, and on that website, there is no Sovereign bridge schematics...
 
...That plan is certainly a better match for the set that was used in ST:NEM, as it gets the Ready Room layout right (but still features an impossible window there, unless it's a viewscreen configured as a window). Picard had a different Ready Room in ST:INS, according to the script - but the movie itself doesn't identify that room as his Ready Room or show that it should adjoin the Main Bridge, so we can ignore the reference there.

Timo Saloniemi
 


I have to add my thanks as well. I've been looking for the E-E's bridge floorplan for ages. You guys read my mind. About the only real reference I have, aside from the movies, is my old copy of "Star Trek: Captain's Chair". I'd also like to see some blueprints, possibly construction, showing the stations and the ceiling.
As for the floorplan in real life. I would imagine corridors running along both sides from the observation lounge to the Captain's Ready room to his mysterious door. And to a standby bridge officers area on the port side. Could also be the first officer's office. Don't see the need for an airlock on the bridge level. This would provide the Captain with access to the turbolift and observation lounge without having to walk out onto the bridge. Are there doors at either end of the observation lounge like the D had? I don't remember.
 
The set plans for the ST:INS bridge can be found in the "Making of" booklet of that movie - but lamentably they are used as page backgrounds, being covered partially by text and pictures...

Anyway, here's one print of 'em, supposedly sold at Christie's:

http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d47795/d4779570r.jpg

These plans e.g. show how the corridor where Picard first met Worf in ST:INS actually adjoins the bridge set. This obviously isn't how the layout of the bridge deck is supposed to go in the "reality" of Star Trek. Nor is it likely that the airlock set built into the forward portside corner of the bridge for ST:FC (but removed for ST:INS) is "actually" there on the bridge.

The plans also show how the observation lounge has been redressed as the Deck 9 lounge where the buffet and ball is being held; the added partitioned space where Picard and LaForge can have their private conversation about Data is highlighted in turquoise.

As for the floorplan in real life. I would imagine corridors running along both sides from the observation lounge to the Captain's Ready room to his mysterious door.
There's no space for such a corridor if the outer wall is flush with the Ready Room window. Then again, as said, there is no window visible from the outside in that part of the ship's superstructure anyway - so perhaps the Ready Room only has a window-shaped viewscreen that is always set to "window", and in fact a corridor runs right behind that viewscreen?

And to a standby bridge officers area on the port side. Could also be the first officer's office. Don't see the need for an airlock on the bridge level.
ST:FC needed an airlock set, and this was built adjoining the bridge set because there was no reason not to. However, the movie doesn't suggest that the bridge would feature an airlock, and the door that leads to the airlock set (which was removed from ST:INS, as the set plan shows) is a simple two-piece "inner door" as seen here:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/firstcontacthd/firstcontacthd0363.jpg

It's probably Riker's Ready Room or something like that, then, yes.

I mean, it could also be the same door we see behind Lily here:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/firstcontacthd/firstcontacthd1299.jpg

After all, it is the same door in real life. But that makes no sense. There's no outer airlock door anywhere in the forward part of the bridge superstructure, and in any case, Picard, Worf and Hawk were suiting up to engage the Borg on the underside of the saucer. Starting out at the bridge would be lunatic...

This would provide the Captain with access to the turbolift and observation lounge without having to walk out onto the bridge.
He never had such access on other ships - why should he need it here? Then again, we have seen doors like that leading to utility spaces such as Jeffries tube nodes or closets; the second door in Picard's Ready Room (and possibly a similar door behind the other, "not airlock"/"Riker's Ready Room" door) could simply be one of those. We don't see Jeffries ladder access elsewhere on this bridge, even though the E-D bridge had such access (through the starboard side doors that match the turbolift doors to port).

Are there doors at either end of the observation lounge like the D had? I don't remember.
Yup. And both lead directly to the corresponding doors at the back of the bridge, as these two sets were really built back to back. But this makes it impossible to fit the set inside the outer shell of the ship, which is really "tight". See for example here (cut and paste the link):

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/drex/enterprise-e-angled.jpg

Note how there would be suitable windows for Picard's Ready Room just one deck below. The only thing that prevents us from lowering the bridge to that level are those pesky doors that lead directly to the Observation Lounge... :klingon:

Timo Saloniemi
 
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Thanks for the information. It seems that the observation lounge was just a redress of the D's lounge. From what I've seen of the outside of the bridge module. The observation lounge back wall (with windows) should be almost straight.
I've been toying around with the idea of designing my ideal house. I think, as a big Trek fan, that it would be really cool to build the top floor as the Enterprise-E's bridge module. For real inside and out. Everything would have to fit in place just like on the real ship. And the observation lounge windows would be real windows with a view of the ocean or lake. And I could watch my Star Trek movies on the bridge viewscreen, which would be a custom-made LED screen floor-to-ceiling. Sort of being an enlargement of the NEM viewscreen. And all of the bridge consoles really work. I'd change the con and ops stations to be a one-piece unit like the old days on TOS. They just bump up against each other anyway.
 
Interesting how they decided not to remove the portside aft turbolift in order to make for a simpler corridor to the "Deck 9 lounge". Were the bridge turbolifts of the E-E bridge not "wild" after all?

Timo Saloniemi
 
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