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Sony Spider-Verse discussion thread

I thought we had a separate thread for Across the Spider-Verse, but I couldn't find anything so I'll put this news here: Per io9, The Spot, as voiced by Jason Schwartzman, will be one of the villains. Shea Whigham and Rachel Dratch have also joined the cast as George Stacy and a school counselor, respectively.

The article features conceptual art depicting Miles and Gwen fighting The Spot, which makes him look pretty cool looking. I'm not familiar with the character but io9 is awfully derisive about him (shocking, I know).
Shocking as it may be, I have actually read at least one or two comics with The Spot, and he has a ton of potential as a villain for a movie like Across the Spider-Verse.
 
I know the Spot mainly from his appearance in the classic '90s Spidey animated series, where he was a fairly whimsical antagonist.
 
Spot's one of the first Spidey villains I remember and I've always liked him. I guess his less than stellar reputation is mostly about how he's presented more than anything inherent in the character. He almost borders the style of a Doom Patrol villain more than a typical Spider-man villain, so I can see some fans dismissing him as too weird and different.

Which probably makes this the perfect project for him. The animators will have the freedom to do whatever they want with his powers without ballooning the budget and the first film has already positioned itself kind of in between the more serious and sillier sides of the lore with the inclusion of stuff like Spider-Ham and Spider Noir, so people who might balk at the Spot in live action will probably be more inclined to just go with it here.
 
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I'm coming to this discussion way late... But I finally saw "No Way Home."
In case spoiler tags are still required...
I thought it was interesting how Tom Hardy Venom's appearance tied to the post-credits scene in Venom: Let There Be Carnage. I was hoping that version of Venom might interact with the Tom Holland Spider-Man, but with that piece of the symbiote left behind it looks like they are setting up for a completely different version of Venom to appear in the Holland-verse or whatever it's called.

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I may be misremembering, but didn't Squirrel Girl convince him to stop hunting animals at one point?
 
I may be misremembering, but didn't Squirrel Girl convince him to stop hunting animals at one point?

She convinced him to take a pause from hunting Spider-Man by convincing him there was a better, less violent challenge he could pit himself against. I'm not sure if it extended to a blanket ban on hunting animals. The part I remember most vividly is the Kra-Van. Which I really hope is in the movie.
 
I may be misremembering, but didn't Squirrel Girl convince him to stop hunting animals at one point?

Nothing that happened in Squirrel Girl was ever reflected in other comics. IIRC he was busy murdering children over in Spider-Man at the same time.

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Making a movie about Kraven the Hunter but not having him be a hunter is an idea so funny you'd think it was a parody of one of Sony's decisions.
 
The other problem with Kraven is that you can't do his best story without Spider-Man. (And without doing multiple stories with Spider-Man before it, to have it make sense.)

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The other problem with Kraven is that you can't do his best story without Spider-Man. (And without doing multiple stories with Spider-Man before it, to have it make sense.)

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Indeed. This is precisely the issue I've had with a Kraven solo film or awhile back rumors of adapting that exact story...as his introduction.
 

Why do they keep doing this? Kraven is a villain, keep him a villain, or at least an anti-hero.

The really messed up thing is, if Sony wants spider-man related superheroes, they can have them. Maybe instead of trying to fit an obvious villain in as a hero, they could try using: Scarlet Spider (any of them), Spider-Girl (any of them), Spider-Woman (any of them), Spider-Gwen, any alternate Spider-Man, Phil Urich Green Goblin, Agent Venom, Silk, Hornet/Dusk/Prodigy/Ricochet (some of Spider-Man's temperary alter egos that were eventually given to other people), etc. those are just the ones that immediately come to mind, and that I'm pretty sure Sony probably has the rights to. Plus, as has been said before, even the duo of Black cat/Silver Sable makes sense as a more heroic movie compared to just the outright villains that Sony is trying to twist.

I hope this movie bombs even more then Morbius. At least the character of Morbius in the comics is usually a tragic figure, you can twist that to anti-hero easily enough. Kraven is supposed to be a complete bastard, and being a trophy hunting a-hole is literally the core of his character. It definitely makes him completely unsympathetic, which is the point because he's a murderous villain.

This whole thing really does feel like a parody of a bad early 2000s comicbook movie.
 
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