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Spoilers (Somewhat minor spoilers) Guys, Lower Decks has NOT decanonized Discovery. Or SNW.

Another example: back in TOS women were not allowed to be captains. And not just that we didn't saw any, it was spelled out in Turnabout Intruder. Janeway and Freeman are both in later times, both in and out of universe. But Discovery started before the TOS era, already with Philipa Georgiou as Captain. And that doesn't mean it's not canon or an alt universe, just that canon was silently fixed.
I mean, the person who stated it was clearly psychologically unstable so I would take that line with a grain of salt.

But, yes, I agree that it's not an alt universe or not canon. Just an adjustment in a series filled with such things.
 
Star Trek has clearly shown us that "alternate" timelines and "altered" timelines are two distinct and separate phenomenon.

The Mirror Universe, the Kelvin universe, and the examples that we saw in Parallels are alternate universes-- universes that splintered off from another timeline.

Examples such as The City on the Edge of Forever, Time's Arrow, Past Tense, Star Trek First Contact and Picard season 2 are clear examples of an altered timeline, one timeline being altered without splintering. All of our main Star Trek series have taken place in one prime timeline and any contradictions between those shows can be written off to the alterations of the Temporal Cold War, as clearly demonstrated in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow.
 
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back in TOS women were not allowed to be captains. And not just that we didn't saw any, it was spelled out in Turnabout Intruder.
Although I usually try to discourage others from using this logic, I am going to point out that line was spoken by someone who wasn't exactly a reliable source of information. But even ignoring that, the exact line is "your world of starship captains doesn't admit women" which could be open to interpretation, IE Lester could have meant Kirk's obligations as a Captain didn't leave time for relationships, for example.

But really, it's probably best to ignore the line altogether rather than try making it canonically fit, which it can't. Or trying to use it to back up any theories.
 
Every single example of time travel would equal a new universe being formed and means that we haven't been following the prime timeline since a few episodes into season 1 of TOS.
Negatory. Individual episodes usually resolve the time line discrepancies, stopping alternate timelines/universes from being created. That's the point of the episode, and allows them to have a good laugh at the end.
 
Didn't the Romulan in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow say that it was like the time was trying to correct itself? Pushing back and correcting itself so that things happen the way they're "supposed to happen." That doesn't sound like a new timeline being created. It sounds like a single timeline that is bending and flexing, but still maintaining itself.
Correct, and that's why you can get the same events occurring in altered timelines.
 
I wasn't around in 1969, but I can imagine that line being a bit of a head-scratcher at the time, especially considering that the series had already shown Number One commanding the Enterprise in Pike's absence. It doesn't fit the rest of TOS, which shows plenty of women in positions of responsibility, and it comes in the context of Janice Lester wanting to roam the stars with Captain Kirk, not commanding her own ship. So I expect there wasn't a huge outcry when that particular statement was contradicted by Star Trek 2, with Saavik training for command.
And Janice Lester was insane, so why would anyone trust her viewpoint or statements?
 
The Irish Reunification of 2024 did not occur, thus officially removing The Next Generation from canon.


Am I doing this right?
Maybe we accept that Star Trek is fiction and TOS exists in a fictional universe where there were Eugenics Wars in the 1990s and the Bell Riots occurred in the San Francisco's Sanctuary District this year.

And if you want a constantly updating timeline that Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman feels the need for changes in order to remain "aspirational" to fans with a Canadian 21st century version of Khan, then you can have that in Discovery/SNW's separate quantum reality.
Star Trek has clearly shown us that "alternate" timelines and "altered" timelines are two distinct and separate phenomenon.

The Mirror Universe, the Kelvin universe, and the examples that we saw in Parallels are alternate universes-- universes that splintered off from another timeline.

Examples such as The City on the Edge of Forever, Time's Arrow, Past Tense, Star Trek First Contact and Picard season 2 are clear examples of an altered timeline, one timeline being altered without splintering. All of our main Star Trek series have taken place in one prime timeline and any contradictions between those shows can be written off to the alterations of the Temporal Cold War, as clearly demonstrated in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow.
That's not exactly true.

In season 2 of Prodigy, Wesley uses his Traveler powers to display the different timelines/universes and references both the Kelvin Timeline and the Mirror Universe. Neither he or the display makes any distinction between them except as different branches of time that are distinct from the Prime Universe.
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I'm not sure why there is a distinction between Live action and animated. Continuity isn't based on that. All the TV shows and movies are looked upon equally. (Depending on the current IP holder/franchise runner)

equally…except for Robert April :D
 
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