Something that has been bothering me the whole time...

[urbandk]

The whole talk about lighting storms was nonsense, in my opinion. Those are scientists aboard a starship. If they see a white hole, they will talk about a white hole. If they see a black hole, they will talk about a black hole. If they read some technobabble anomaly, they will definately talk technobabble. Only if they talk to the stupid news reporters, then they will probably talk about lighting storms in space. But the writers decided they would rather have something really stupid instead of some technobabble (although that would have been realistic).

Yeah, all Star Trek "science" is magic. What else is new?

Not if the writer goes along saying that his script is following the most scientific, most current, most awesome theories, which he did say. Then it's time to criticize him for saying so but writing bullshit at the same time.

Dude Star Trek eps have always talked out of both sides of their mouth on this stuff. Some stuff is "science." Some stuff is magic.

It's never all one or all the other.

Warp drive : 20% science. 80% magic.

Transporter : 20% science. 80% magic.

Time travel : 20% science. 80% magic.

Everyone appeals to the most current scientific theory they can get their hands on. That's what puts the "science" in "science-fiction."

People then make tweaks and changes to make the story work. I've always suspended my disbelief to enjoy Star Trek.

 

[Nightfall to-Ennien]

Had they really indeed followed the current theories, ALL of their effects related to those phenomenons would have been ten times more awesome than in the actual movie.

Quoted for truth. Seeing the Narada undergo spaghettification would have been implausibly cool.

 

[Photoman15]

Spare warp core in the trunk!

 

[cooleddie74]

I just assumed that they got a tow once all the fighting was over.

That's possible too. Starfleet has tugs and haulers in service even though we rarely if ever saw them in action on-screen. It'd make no sense to have all these big starships and other vessels be totally or mostly immobile if their warp and/or impulse drives went down.

 

[M'Sharak]

The whole talk about lighting storms was nonsense, in my opinion. Those are scientists aboard a starship. If they see a white hole, they will talk about a white hole. If they see a black hole, they will talk about a black hole. If they read some technobabble anomaly, they will definately talk technobabble. Only if they talk to stupid news reporters, then they will probably talk about lighting storms in space. But the writers decided they would rather have something really stupid instead of some technobabble (although that would have been realistic), or simply the line "Starfleet, do you read that? Looks like a White Hole!", and Vulcan's distress signal would have been much more urgent had they said: "There's a white hole opening up close to Vulcan!"

Wasn't the "lightning storm in space" phrase part of the intercepted Klingon transmission about ships being destroyed near Rura Penthe, though? It definitely was not part of the distress call from Vulcan because the "lightning storm in space" did not occur anywhere near Vulcan.

 

[urbandk]

I just assumed that they got a tow once all the fighting was over.

That's possible too. Starfleet has tugs and haulers in service even though we rarely if ever saw them in action on-screen. It'd make no sense to have all these big starships and other vessels be totally or mostly immobile if their warp and/or impulse drives went down.

True, ships definitely can be towed along at warp speed with a tractor beam.

 

[nx1701g]

The whole talk about lighting storms was nonsense, in my opinion. Those are scientists aboard a starship. If they see a white hole, they will talk about a white hole. If they see a black hole, they will talk about a black hole. If they read some technobabble anomaly, they will definately talk technobabble. Only if they talk to stupid news reporters, then they will probably talk about lighting storms in space. But the writers decided they would rather have something really stupid instead of some technobabble (although that would have been realistic), or simply the line "Starfleet, do you read that? Looks like a White Hole!", and Vulcan's distress signal would have been much more urgent had they said: "There's a white hole opening up close to Vulcan!"

Wasn't the "lightning storm in space" phrase part of the intercepted Klingon transmission about ships being destroyed near Rura Penthe, though? It definitely was not part of the distress call from Vulcan because the "lightning storm in space" did not occur anywhere near Vulcan.

If you listen closely to the opening scenes in the Kelvin you hear one of the Kelvin officers say it was like a lightning storm in space and when asked for confirmation he says something to the effect of "Thats why I said it."

 

[SilentP]

As for the 'lightning storm in space' element of the red matter black hole anomaly, I wouldn't be surprised if the 'lightning storm' being an aspect of the red matter igniting, and perhaps screwing up any readings that would occur from natural blackholes.