Something I noticed in the Riverside Shipyards scene

[Kpnuts]

I noticed that the first time I saw the movie.

-Chris

Well aren't you clever

Yes he sure is!!

He notices every single thing about every single movie the first time he sees it---without exception.

Because of course, there is only one thing to see in any given shot of a movie.



But honey, I'm only a man, HE'S Popo Bawa!!!"

Right well I was commenting more on his "oooh look at me, I'm so much better than you, I saw it the first time" posturing.

Yeah those Blu-ray players are expensive, I saw one at Wal-mart for $98 !!! Ninety-eight !!

Do they think movie fans are millionaires?

I hope you're not serious

 

[Grant]

Well aren't you clever

Yes he sure is!!

He notices every single thing about every single movie the first time he sees it---without exception.

Because of course, there is only one thing to see in any given shot of a movie.



But honey, I'm only a man, HE'S Popo Bawa!!!"

Right well I was commenting more on his "oooh look at me, I'm so much better than you, I saw it the first time" posturing.

Yeah those Blu-ray players are expensive, I saw one at Wal-mart for $98 !!! Ninety-eight !!

Do they think movie fans are millionaires?

I hope you're not serious

On the first....................I was actually agreeing with you about his lame "I saw it and you didn't" boast.
I guess I wasn't clear---I'll work on that.

And on the second part....

No I wasn't being serious about Blu-ray players being too expensive----
I was mocking those who are continuing to claim they 'wish they could afford one'

I mean really how much further do prices have to fall to make a superior format 'reasonable'

Standard DVD players from top quality companies are still $40+ so how is under $100 a rip-off for a better format?

The players will play the old DVDs (and CDs) and will play on non HD-format TVs. (So you can take advantadge of many of the benefits NOW, without having to buy an HDTV>)

So if your old player breaks or you're buying another needed player---just spend the extra $50 or be honest and just say, "i don't care about the quality upgrade.
don't use the, "they're too expensive" crutch.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It has to be the Enterprise - they play the intro to the fanfare during the shuttle take-off.

 

[Sector 7]

I noticed that the first time I saw the movie.

-Chris

O..M..G..! How dare you be intelligent on this board! People will ridicule you for that. Oops, too late... looks like some already did. Or perhaps jealousy is fueling the criticism?!

 

[M'Sharak]

I noticed that the first time I saw the movie.

-Chris

O..M..G..! How dare you be intelligent on this board! People will ridicule you for that. Oops, too late... looks like some already did. Or perhaps jealousy is fueling the criticism?!

At least one of the people doing the ridiculing has before talked some trash at another poster for not noticing some detail or other until a third or fourth. I'll say the same thing now as I did then: different people will notice different shit at different times -- that's perfectly normal, and there's no call for anyone to put down anyone else for not noticing all the same shit at the same time. So A noticed it before B -- that's great -- now can we get on with the discussion instead of getting the thread bogged down in how cool or not cool of A it was to have said so? Sheesh.

 

[SilentP]

I 'think' I saw the entrance sign to the facility, when Kirk rode in, that said something along the lines of 'Construction Yard 47.'

The answer to life, the universe and everything, adjusted for inflation lives!

 

[MvRojo]

Word of advice...I'd probably avoid that $98 Blu-Ray player.

 

[Grant]

Well, I now know not to take advice from.


The lower price is a function of many factors not having to do with quality.

The promotion of players to help move software sales.
A loss leader to bring people into the store.
The fact that the player doesn't have all the bells and whistles of other players---most of which i don't use on my more expensive player.

People have been buying extremly low-cost DVD players for years and have not had them break down just because they were a bargin.

I got my 80 year old mother a really inexpensive standard DVD player against her wishes (she thought she'd never use it) and five years later it still works and she treats it really badly.
She has now seen probably 2000 movies on the damn thing

She turns it on and off 20-25 times a day sometimes leaves it on pause for hours, turns off the TV and accidentally leaves the DVD player on. Open the drawer for no reason or accidently to restart movies or change the settings......

and the damn thing just won't die.

I'm waiting for it cheap thing to die so i can get her a better player for her HDTV, but it won't and she comes from the generation where you don't replace something till it conks out.

Price doesn't mean an electronic won't last.

 

[MvRojo]

Yeah, but for BD players, it is a little different. I don't know what the $98 player is, but it might not have BD-live, networking capabilities (to allow for firmware updates, which is fairly important for BD), and what has happened a lot is inability to play some BD discs.

 

[cooleddie74]

To be fair...how many of us DIDN'T know it was the Enterprise in the shipyard? As early as the first months of 2008 and the very first teaser trailer at the head of CLOVERFIELD we knew Enterprise---at least in this altered timeline---was being constructed down on Earth. Put two and two together...why show ANOTHER Constitution-class ship in a trailer that is being longingly stared at by a young James T. Kirk?

 

[Rackon]

Well, I now know not to take advice from.


The lower price is a function of many factors not having to do with quality.

The promotion of players to help move software sales.
A loss leader to bring people into the store.
The fact that the player doesn't have all the bells and whistles of other players---most of which i don't use on my more expensive player.

People have been buying extremly low-cost DVD players for years and have not had them break down just because they were a bargin.

I got my 80 year old mother a really inexpensive standard DVD player against her wishes (she thought she'd never use it) and five years later it still works and she treats it really badly.
She has now seen probably 2000 movies on the damn thing

She turns it on and off 20-25 times a day sometimes leaves it on pause for hours, turns off the TV and accidentally leaves the DVD player on. Open the drawer for no reason or accidently to restart movies or change the settings......

and the damn thing just won't die.

I'm waiting for it cheap thing to die so i can get her a better player for her HDTV, but it won't and she comes from the generation where you don't replace something till it conks out.

Price doesn't mean an electronic won't last.

Price isn't always a determinant of longevity or reliability. Many cheap players work great for years. But many do not. OTOH, if you want the darned thing to die so you can replace it, that's a sure bet the device will last forever.

One very important difference with DVD is a that it is a "mature" technology. Blu-Ray is not, plus it is more complicated to manufacture, plus the standards are still developing as manufacturers add more interactivity and capabilities to the format.

As Rojo noted, having live capability to update firmware upgrades has been a real advantage for owners.

The $98 player may be just fine. It also may not.

As a high end audio and HT enthusiast for the past 20 years, I'd advise checking out any BD player on a website like AVSforum.com before purchasing.

Oh, and I noticed the 1701 on the E in the shipyard the first time - "Love at first sight", thought I, even though I was slightly shocked to see a starship being built on the ground.

 

[Grant]

^^Three year old is old enough.
The newer players of many different have needed far less firmware updates. Mine hasn't needed one in 10 months and i haven't had any unplayable movies.

Besides even the top most expensive models have needed updates in the past so price isn't a factor in whether a machine will need an update.

But if you want to pretend reliable, affordable Blu-rays players are out of reach of the average consumer go ahead and do so. Many of my friends/relatives have bought inexpensive models and are very happy.


Also, I didn't notice the 1701 on it, but i never had any doubt that was what they were showing in the first place.

 

[MvRojo]

Besides even the top most expensive models have needed updates in the past so price isn't a factor in whether a machine will need an update.

But if you want to pretend reliable, affordable Blu-rays players are out of reach of the average consumer go ahead and do so. Many of my friends/relatives have bought inexpensive models and are very happy.

Yeah, but some don't have networking capability so that makes it hard to upgrade the firmware

 

[Grant]

Mine uses a flashdrive and is pretty simple.

 

[Alrik]

To be fair...how many of us DIDN'T know it was the Enterprise in the shipyard? As early as the first months of 2008 and the very first teaser trailer at the head of CLOVERFIELD we knew Enterprise---at least in this altered timeline---was being constructed down on Earth. Put two and two together...why show ANOTHER Constitution-class ship in a trailer that is being longingly stared at by a young James T. Kirk?

It was kind of a no brainer. Does it make me a bad person if I picked up on the 1701 on the nacelle on my first viewing?

 

[cooleddie74]

To be fair...how many of us DIDN'T know it was the Enterprise in the shipyard? As early as the first months of 2008 and the very first teaser trailer at the head of CLOVERFIELD we knew Enterprise---at least in this altered timeline---was being constructed down on Earth. Put two and two together...why show ANOTHER Constitution-class ship in a trailer that is being longingly stared at by a young James T. Kirk?

It was kind of a no brainer. Does it make me a bad person if I picked up on the 1701 on the nacelle on my first viewing?

Nope. Just anally observant. Like me!

 

[Alrik]

Nope. Just anally observant. Like me!

That sounds about right. Went with my wife and son the first time. When we were talking afterwards, I was asking if they had noticed Olsen's red jump suit, Kirk's apple, or a few of the other obvious nods, and the reply was, "huh?" But I still haven't found R2.

 

[Samurai8472]

I noticed immediately.

We don't just follow the crew's progression but also the Enterprise's

 

[cooleddie74]

From the looks of things the Enterprise(this one in this timeline, at least)takes well over three years to build. She's mostly finished by 2255 and then what's left of her is patched up and filled in by the time the Nero/Vulcan crisis erupts in 2258, as she is in orbit on her maiden voyage when the incident happens.

 

[Alrik]

I noticed immediately.

We don't just follow the crew's progression but also the Enterprise's

That's only right though. The Enterprise was very much one of the main figures in Star Trek. It was posted in another thread (and very correctly so) that the Enterprise was JTK's one and only 'true love'.

cooleddie

I think you're pretty close. She looks to be about 75% done in '55, so they probably would have taken another one and a half to two years to completely fit her out. After that she would have to be 'launched' and then sent out for space trials. So it looks like everything pretty much fits.