No, I don't have photoshop. I did these in paint.
Some changes I'd have made
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No, I don't have photoshop. I did these in paint.
A few thoughts...
You might try a free program called the Gimp. It has a bit of a learning curve, but it can do a lot of the same stuff that photoshop does.
For some reason I'm getting a TMP-ish vibe from Kirk in a blue uniform. Somehow it seems more cerebral to me with everyone in light blue.
As for miniskirt uniforms, we simply *can't* look at that from our biased 2015 viewpoints without considering the very very different context of that era. It has been said that "the past is a foreign country."
It's important to remember that the miniskirt played a role in feminism and womens' lib at the time. For much of history, women were basically required by patriarchal society to cover themselves up, and the miniskirt represented a radical, and in fact empowering, departure from that paradigm. When Mary Quant created the first commercially-available miniskirt in the London scene, it was all about self-expression and reflecting the zeitgeist of the time, and not at all about what males would like or consider proper.
And neither Nichelle Nichols nor Grace Lee Whitney saw anything wrong with using it as a uniform on Star Trek. Whitney claimed that she personally helped develop the miniskirt uniform because she found the pants annoying. And Nichols said that miniskirts are stylish in real life, so why can't you be stylish in outer space, too?
Kor
You might try a free program called the Gimp. It has a bit of a learning curve, but it can do a lot of the same stuff that photoshop does.
For some reason I'm getting a TMP-ish vibe from Kirk in a blue uniform. Somehow it seems more cerebral to me with everyone in light blue.
As for miniskirt uniforms, we simply *can't* look at that from our biased 2015 viewpoints without considering the very very different context of that era. It has been said that "the past is a foreign country."
It's important to remember that the miniskirt played a role in feminism and womens' lib at the time. For much of history, women were basically required by patriarchal society to cover themselves up, and the miniskirt represented a radical, and in fact empowering, departure from that paradigm. When Mary Quant created the first commercially-available miniskirt in the London scene, it was all about self-expression and reflecting the zeitgeist of the time, and not at all about what males would like or consider proper.
And neither Nichelle Nichols nor Grace Lee Whitney saw anything wrong with using it as a uniform on Star Trek. Whitney claimed that she personally helped develop the miniskirt uniform because she found the pants annoying. And Nichols said that miniskirts are stylish in real life, so why can't you be stylish in outer space, too?
Kor
If you were going to engage in unarmed combat, the miniskirts would make far more sense than to be wearing trousers.
Freedom of movement.
The Calypso began her life as a naval mine sweeper, and did (at one time) have guns, and armed personnel.
Starfleet is a "unified service." Applying that to the US military, the various branch have much different uniforms, you can easily identify a Marine in cammie from a Army guy in their cammies.
I'm happy with the colours. I'm happy with clean shaven Mr. Spock.
That said, I did like the movie uniforms. But they do give of a more "militaristic" vibe though. As do the uniform NX-01 uniforms.
All the same colours give off a more militaristic vibe. Different colours are more about exploration.
That said, I did like the movie uniforms. But they do give of a more "militaristic" vibe though. As do the uniform NX-01 uniforms.
All the same colours give off a more militaristic vibe. Different colours are more about exploration.
I have no problems with the uniform colors. "Back in my day..." sailors in faded blue dungarees and chiefs/officers in wash khakis looked pretty different, but everybody knew they were part of the same navy.
TWOK used the same color scheme for everyone, but had completely different styles for officer and enlisted. Still "not uniform," just in a different way.
I like how the rank stripes were intentionally different from the US or British pattern. What I would have changed, though, was to have some kind of rank insignia for everyone below LTJG.
TWOK used the same color scheme for everyone, but had completely different styles for officer and enlisted. Still "not uniform," just in a different way.
I like how the rank stripes were intentionally different from the US or British pattern. What I would have changed, though, was to have some kind of rank insignia for everyone below LTJG.
1. Disagree. I like that different crew members wear different colors to indicate their departments/specialties.
2. Totally agree. Ever since the first time I saw Mirror Mirror, I totally dug Spock's beard and wished he had it all the time.
In fact, I would play Star Trek with my Mego Star Trek dolls...excuse me...action figures, and I took a black magic marker and drew a goatee on Spock. MY Spock ALWAYS had a beard.
I totally agree. Younger people see goatees, tattoos, and pierced ears on men as the norm today, but it does not look like Starfleet to me. It looks like misguided vanity.
I think the "blue-Kirk" pictures look blah because that shade of blue existed in the context of having red and gold shirts alongside it. Take away the other colors, and that light blue isn't strong enough to carry the show. Better: navy blue or a dark blue-gray, like on the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series.
Navy blue would have been perfect. If I get photoshop and learn to use it I'll try a few of those and post them in the fan art thread!
Have you seen the retro-mego bearded Spock doll? Very cool!
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Mir...=1-1-fkmr2&keywords=Mirror+Universe+Mr.+Spock
Once upon a decades ago, I had two Spock figures, and I would dress one of them up as Mirror Spock, including drawing on the beard with pastel chalk.
We all know beards denote evil-doers. That's why I keep mine anyway, mwhahahahahahaahahahahahhahaha 
Oh. I'll tell the Navy they've been doing it wrong.
And btw, the original plan was for the TWOK uniforms to be multi-colored, too.
I did, in fact, mention that people working on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier do wear different colored uniforms. Perhaps you missed this?:
"With a few necessary exceptions like people working on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, most uniformed services consider small badges and patches to be sufficient for differentiating between departments/specialties."
"With a few necessary exceptions like people working on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, most uniformed services consider small badges and patches to be sufficient for differentiating between departments/specialties."
I'm glad someone thought better of that plan.
Funny. I used to have an Uhura doll I would undress as Mirror Uhura.
By the way, can I get a show of hands -- anyone else out here think that Kellita Smith (of Z Nation) would make an awesome Uhura?
Trousers don't seem to handicap men who wear them, and females in the military are issued BDU's with trousers, not miniskirts.
Yes, but not after it had been re-purposed as Cousteau's research vessel. No guns, nor armed personnel, no missions to patrol and defend borders or repel hostiles.
I presume you're referring to the bit of dialogue in the episode "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" Wherre Capt Christopher ask if The Navy built all this, and Kirk tells him "We're a combined service."? I took that to mean that all services had been combined, leaving Star Fleet as the only branch.
Yes, but navies traditionally have distinctly different uniforms for officers and enlisted personnel.
I read somewhere that Roddenberry did that right from the beginning because he didn't want Star Trek to be militaristic. Which again begs the question "What's with all the guns, ranks and uniforms?"
I've read that Roddenberry viewed the organization as less like the military and more like the police department, which also carries sidearms and has ranks. And with police, everyone is an officer, captains and lieutenants abound. Yet, Star fleet also has ensigns, commanders, and admirals, so....definitely a mixed message at best...
--Alex
^ depends which Roddenberry (i.e. when Roddenberry). More importantly, he had the concept, but it was other people who really set the tone of the show (Coon, Fontana, so many others). His word is hardly gospel. There is no disputing that Starfleet is a military service. It amazes me that people think it is anything else - I think it springs from a fundamental misunderstanding of what a military actually is.
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