Some changes I'd have made
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Sorry Maurice, but you're mistaken. Star Trek's bold, exaggerated color palette was chosen for the specific purpose of helping to sell the public on color TV sets. NBC had a partnership with RCA at the time.
1966 was the first year the three big networks went to an all-color prime time line-up, and encouraging the audience to "upgrade their hardware" (as we'd put it today) was a huge concern.
To OP:
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Welcome to the forum, Kybie.
The OP said "Star Trek was one of the first color television shows out there". That statement is factually incorrect.
So, while widespread adoption of color TV wasn't until the Trek era, color TVs and color broadcasts were happening long before NBC went full peacock and weekly Spock.
You guys do realize I verify these things before I open my trap, don't you.
Maurice wrote:
It's surprising that the last B&W prime time shows held out as such until 1966. Adventures of Superman started filming its color episodes in 1955, with the future in mind, as they were still broadcast in B&W. Bonanza started in 1959 and the whole series is in color. If Lost in Space had spent the money for color in its first season, the re-run value would have been higher.
You were contradicting a crazy, exaggerated statement of Star Trek's pioneering status. I get that now. I was talking about the show's costumes and production design being intended to encourage RCA's color TV sales.You guys do realize I verify these things before I open my trap, don't you.
It's surprising that the last B&W prime time shows held out as such until 1966. Adventures of Superman started filming its color episodes in 1955, with the future in mind, as they were still broadcast in B&W. Bonanza started in 1959 and the whole series is in color. If Lost in Space had spent the money for color in its first season, the re-run value would have been higher.
I'm curious what you'd do with the female uniforms. I'm assuming they'd be in the same blue and collared style tunic with trousers as the men.
"I'm curious what you'd do with the female uniforms. I'm assuming they'd be in the same blue and collared style tunic with trousers as the men."
Yes sir. As entertaining as the mini-dress uniforms are, they are still ludicrous.
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Duly noted. Consider me properly chastised.
Yes sir. As entertaining as the mini-dress uniforms are, they are still ludicrous.
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"Two things, Ensign Benson:
-The pictures are too large. You need to make them smaller.
-Don't post more than two at a time. Then wait for others to chime in and discuss them. Posting more than twice in a row is a no-no here.'
Duly noted. Consider me properly chastised.
Well, CBS in 1965 would only do color if the sponsors paid for it, and Fox apparently didn't want to make up the difference. Short sighted in the long run to be sure.
I LOVE the miniskirt uniforms. They are indicative of a culture with different values from our own. And I don't just mean what we may pin as outdated 1960's culture, but something of its own that the 23rd century embraces, which may be lost on other generations.
Regarding the photo manipulation, Some of those are quite good. But with the uniform color changing, I would recommend grabbing the blue shirt from a different scene, as Kirk keeps on obviously wearing Spock or McCoy's shirt, wrinkles and all.
Also I'm surprised no one whisked you away to the Art forum.
I look forward to seeing more!
--Alex
Regarding the photo manipulation, Some of those are quite good. But with the uniform color changing, I would recommend grabbing the blue shirt from a different scene, as Kirk keeps on obviously wearing Spock or McCoy's shirt, wrinkles and all.
Also I'm surprised no one whisked you away to the Art forum.
I look forward to seeing more!
--Alex
To me, the miniskirts are a reminder that for much of it's history science fiction was written primarily for teenage boys.
Putting McCoy's shirt on Kirk worked better than using Spock's, but it turned out to be hard to find pics of McCoy in the standard tunic instead of his lab smock. I tried to change the color of Kirk's shirt, but could never get the color even close. Here's one I thought turned out pretty well, except by the time I broadened it enough to fit Shatner, it made his neck look oddly short.
(Sorry for the size. I haven't figured out how to edit them in photobucket yet.)
He does look so much cooler with the beard, doesn't he?
I suppose that the folks at NBC would have stroked out if they'd tried it at the beginning.
Did you try desaturating the color on Kirk's shirt to grayscale, then colorizing it? (I assume you're using Photoshop or a similar program.)
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