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So - Which Incident?

Marc Okrand actually came up with a Romulan language for Star Trek (2009) but you only hear it in background Narada bridge/radio chatter. The original plan was for the Romulans to speak subtitled Romulan, an idea finally used by the Klingons in Discovery (probably Alex Kurtzman's idea, since he's common to both)
Now I really wish they'd gone with the Romulans instead.
 
Dialogue in the premiere refers to the location as "the Human-Vulcan colony of Doctari Alpha", if I remember correctly. Which ties in nicely with how Burnham winds up in Sarek's care.
 
Marc Okrand actually came up with a Romulan language for Star Trek (2009) but you only hear it in background Narada bridge/radio chatter.

All of which is spoken in the film by Wil Wheaton.

(And actually we were supposed to have an entire scene in Romulan, it's where Ayel comes in and addresses Nero as prod. But they redubbed the rest of the scene so it's in English.)
 
Its been reported over and over, and possibly disavowed when Fuller departed, that Discovery is based on an incident in Trek's past. So what might that be?

My candidate - "disastrous first contact with the Klingons leading to decades of war" per Captain Picard.

YES, well aware that Enterprise's own pilot started with the Klingon first contact, but i would argue that Burnham's actions are a version of "first contact", perhaps with the ancient ship Klingons, and seem to have been literally disastrous.

Other candidates?
Perhaps it has something to do with the Albino, as postulated on this other thread dealing with the same topic:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/i-think-i-know-what-the-unexplored-event-is-going-to-be.290108/

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Kor
 
One might say Klingons and Romulans both ceasing their assault on Earth for a century is a prerequisite for Earth still existing... One just wonders who became the main baddie for that century, as it's not as if Starfleet would have fallen behind in the rat race for better guns and greater aggression in the meantime.

Orion Pirates come to mind.
 
...But they hadn't been able to pin down a single crime on them before TAS. So we could just as well say Ferengi.

This is chiefly a concern if somebody decides to do a spinoff about the 2230s or the 2190s. A baddie appearing and then disappearing would be standard Trek fare, though. It's just that it would be cool to decide on one now already, so that the makers of that spinoff would have their work cut out for them. In-universe, our DSC heroes would still remember the previous baddies, so failing to mention them would be a failing indeed.

Timo Saloniemi
 
All sorts of "incidents" pop up in the double pilot already. Vulcan first contact with Klingons in 2016 might be the event mentioned in "First Contact" that resulted in them adopting the Prime Directive (which we see them promote in the 2150s), also resulting in decades of war between the two star empires (unlike the later human first contact with the Klingons).

So, did the Vulcans annex, I mean "protect and sponsor", the war-ravaged, primitive Earth as a buffer zone between them and the nearby (4 days away!) Klingon Empire?

But then the Klingons had a cultural revolution (Judgment Day), then got themselves mixed up in a time war with the Suliban and Tholians (Broken Bow), then splintered into 24 rival parts for a hundred years (Discovery). Maybe the Vulcan Intelligence Agency has been keeping them in disarray?
 
...But they hadn't been able to pin down a single crime on them before TAS. So we could just as well say Ferengi.

This is chiefly a concern if somebody decides to do a spinoff about the 2230s or the 2190s. A baddie appearing and then disappearing would be standard Trek fare, though. It's just that it would be cool to decide on one now already, so that the makers of that spinoff would have their work cut out for them. In-universe, our DSC heroes would still remember the previous baddies, so failing to mention them would be a failing indeed.

Timo Saloniemi

Starfleet had a massive genocidal war against the Suliban-Xindi alliance.
 
So, did the Vulcans annex, I mean "protect and sponsor", the war-ravaged, primitive Earth

That's always been my assumption, yes.

I firmly believe that the Vulcans must have helped Earth in the cleanup and rebuilding after World War III - it's the only explanation I can find as to how Earth recovered so quickly, from a global thermonuclear war no less, in less than a hundred years.

It would also explain Archer's assertion that Vulcan intentionally restricted Earth's technology and expansion in the decades after the war. Vulcan would want payment for services rendered, as it were.
 
it's the only explanation I can find as to how Earth recovered so quickly, from a global thermonuclear war no less, in less than a hundred years.

It couldn't have been that big of a war. There were only 600 million dead out of a population of probably 8 billion. It also seemed like recovery was already in progress as Cochrane talked about taking trains.
 
It's World War III - how could it not be?

You'd have to ask the writers. They're the ones that came up with a nuclear war that only killed ("only") six hundred million people. And seemingly left a lot of cities mostly intact.
 
In the flashback at the beginning of the second episode, Burnham mentions she'd planned to join "the Vulcan Expeditionary Group" rather than Starfleet, which sounds pretty similar to the Vulcanian Expedition Kirk was on in his youth.
 
Names are cheap, including big ones. And isn't Einstein/Oppenheimer/whoever misattributed with that bit about WWIV being fought with flint axes? Possibly in Trek a couple of big ones intervened to reduce the destructive potential of the belligerents of WWIII.

Yet what we know of Trek's WWIII, the 2050s event, is that it involved nuclear winters as per "A Matter of Time", and therefore probably also a fallout problem, either with or without radioactives. Granted, "Omega Glory" sort of states Earth avoided the big confrontation between Commies and Yankees, but that just means the belligerents in the actual WWIII were different and the war still did happen, quite possibly along the lines of projected US/USSR ones. Just add SDI and you get the survival of San Francisco alongside the perishing of hundreds of millions in blasts that level the really big cities in China, Africa, India or South America, because those didn't have Star Wars up in time.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Frankly not hearing a better candidate than Picard’s line.... fits pretty well with what we have seen.
 
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