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So what's up with the trailer Enterprise proportions?

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Kinnison said:
I hate to contradict someone who's obviously spent a lot more time looking at orthographic views of the Enterprise than I have (I followed your original USS Constitution project with great interest), but unless the proportions of Franz Joseph's blueprints (which I'm using for comparison) are way off, the new Enterprise looks entirely plausible to me.

The FJ blueprints are not accurate to the filming model that was used in TOS. Nevertheless, the nacelles shown in the teaser are still bigger. I used my own 3D model of the Enterprise for comparison, which is as accurate to the filming model as I could make it based on available references. Either the saucer has shrunk and the nacelles have been pulled much closer together or the nacelles themselves have gotten at least 25% bigger in diameter.

But again, I don't think what we're seeing in the teaser is necessarily accurate to the ship's final appearance in the movie. When Abrams and the gang did their recent question and answer session on TrekMovie.com, did anyone actually ask if this was what the ship in the movie would look like? If they did, it wasn't one of the questions they chose to answer.

Supposedly another image of the ship is "forthcoming." If it's any more revealing of the ship's overall shape and proportions then we will know just how accurate this teaser version actually is.
 
It could be worse, John Cook could be involved and I would have to introduce the USS Enterforaprize.

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I cant help but wonder if the nacelles dont have a booster cap over the front end, to help the ship get into orbit, which will then be jetisoned in space, to reveal the smaller nacelles we are more used to underneith.
 
Don't think so, they look too much like the smaller nacelles, complete with the rotating globe on the front, they're just... bigger.
 
The teaser trailer was made to sell the movie to the average joe movie goer, not to the anal-compulsive, nitpicking Star Trek fan.

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I completely disagree, this trailer is for fans. It's too visually centered on something only fans would really care about. There is no other reason for JJ to throw out a trailer this early other then to get fans to yak about it to the point were friends and family become curious- or sick of hearing about it from us... I have not heard one non fan even mention this teaser- and have yet to hear one person express less then surprise when I mention the new trek movie. :rolleyes:

As for the thread poster- Good effort with the images. The scaling and proportions are perplexing. I am looking forward to seeing what their Enterprise actually looks like. And I hope NOT like the teaser, because no matter how one tries to explain it, based on the teaser, those nacelles will be COLLOSAL, and the bridge way too small- though who knows, it may not be the bridge any more.
 
In the teaser it shows a view from the back of the Enterprises neck looking down its hull... and theres no warp nacelles attached. You see the pylons that hold the nacelles being built but the nacelles themselves are not attached.

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This means the nacelles are simply being built somewhere else, possibly even just suspended above the hull, but since their not attached they can be moved forwards towards the camera, making them appear a lot larger in the final scene than they really are.

The saucer changes I cant explain tho :-P
 
^ As has been discussed to death in other threads, it is generally agreed that that is looking *forward* up a nacelle; it's not the secondary hull.
 
Those things you call pylons are the winglet-style intercoolers. Compare their shape from the main shot; it's the same. Looking forward you can see the oversized nacelle caps.
 
Im a little confused as to why a new trailer showing off a new enterprise would focus two shots on something like nacelles instead of the hull.

Maybe your right tho *looks for this other thread*

My original point still stands tho, theres nothing to suggest the nacelles are attached yet.
 
^ you are correct in that they may not be attached. But it makes little sense that they would be worked on dangerously close over the saucer section.

On another note, I find it funny that 200 years in the future they're using such little hull plates all over the place. And why they are not uniform in colour is perplexing too. Very messy- not so advanced looking.
 
I dont see much danger as long as they are secured properly, The fact that the engines are rotating shows that they are already testing them so likely passed the exploding stage.
 
I envision an early scene with a schematic developed by starship engineers revealing an overall design that makes most fans cringe in terror.

About halfway through the film, it's discovered that the proposed design simply doesn't work and they can't figure out why. Enter Montgomery Scott.

By the end of the flick we've got an Enterprise with proportions we're far more familiar with.

This follows the whole "The end is the beginning" trend of theatrical reboots lately.
 
MisterPL said:
I envision an early scene with a schematic developed by starship engineers revealing an overall design that makes most fans cringe in terror.

About halfway through the film, it's discovered that the proposed design simply doesn't work and they can't figure out why. Enter Montgomery Scott.

By the end of the flick we've got an Enterprise with proportions we're far more familiar with.

This follows the whole "The end is the beginning" trend of theatrical reboots lately.

Finally! Someone makes some sense from all of this!
 
About halfway through the film, it's discovered that the proposed design simply doesn't work and they can't figure out why. Enter Montgomery Scott.

Starfleet engineer: "What do you mean '950' feet?! I thought this diagram said '1950' feet! HOLD EVERYTHING!"

Welder Guy: "Um...we're kinda already done."

Starfleet engineer: "...crap. Oh well, carry on!"

But it makes little sense that they would be worked on dangerously close over the saucer section.
True, there's no reason to have them way up there unless they've been attached. But I'm thinking along the same lines as Vecktor here, that the nacelles are where they are only for dramatic effect.
 
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