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So We're Producing "The Omega Glory" ...

WAIT - is that true about a line being in the script originally saying the Yangs and Comms were earth-descended?!

Yep.

McCoy: Jim, the parallel's too close. They seem so completely Human. Is it possible that... ?
Kirk: The result of Earth's early space race?
Spock: Quite possible, Captain. They are aggressive enough to be Human.
McCoy: Now listen, Spock, you...

That was from the final shooting script, but I don't know if it was ever actually filmed.
 
WAIT - is that true about a line being in the script originally saying the Yangs and Comms were earth-descended?!

Yep.

McCoy: Jim, the parallel's too close. They seem so completely Human. Is it possible that... ?
Kirk: The result of Earth's early space race?
Spock: Quite possible, Captain. They are aggressive enough to be Human.
McCoy: Now listen, Spock, you...
That was from the final shooting script, but I don't know if it was ever actually filmed.

It was indeed filmed. You can still see the very last remnants of McCoy's and Spock's "Now listen, Spock, you..." interchanged as McCoy and Spock were bickering. Kirk's follow-on line was something about "Gentlemen, let's stop bickering and leave these people to discover their history." Kirk actually interrupted McCoy and Spock, when you watch the episode, and you can see it by looking at (notably Spock) when the scene cuts back to the three shot from the shot of Cloud William. Kirk appears to be jumping in mid-bicker and some piece of that scene was excised during the Cloud William cutaway.
 
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Still love Morgan Woodward's delivery of "We killed thousands and they still came!" Can't beat it. :)

That man was one scary bastard when his eyes popped. :lol:

That line is up there with Windom's "Don't you think I know that?"

And that theatricality was so essential to the kind of series TOS was - we were forever being told amazing, extravagant things that these people were seeing while we were looking at their faces instead of at the we-can't-afford-to-show-you-this cataclysm. Guys like Woodward and Shatner had to sell the situation pretty hard.

"These ruins stretch to the horizon" is one of my other favorite examples.

Nice observation.
 
Pretty much re-write the fourth act.

I would change the "Bill of Rights" and "Old Glory" into something similar, but not duplicates...showing that this planet had a history similar to Earth's, but not identical.

And naturally, lose the musical quote from The Star-Spangled Banner. We get it, okay?
 
...and I love our choice of villain. That pitted bastard is great.
Of course, He's great thanks to experiencing the first-ever mind meld. *grin*

I'd would just add back in that line which explains that these Yangs and Coms were actually just guys from Earth who moved offworld to continue their fight. It makes the presence of the flag and the Constitution so much more sensical when you know that they were simply brought from Earth instead of developing independently.

Except 'Parallel Development' was established in the Star Trek universe by Miri in season one, so I have no issues with that aspect. ;)
 
If we're talking about a certain gung-ho security guard in "Day of the Dove", that was Lt. Johnson. He just looked like the late Lt. Galloway. ;)
 
Still love Morgan Woodward's delivery of "We killed thousands and they still came!" Can't beat it. :)
That one little mini-lecture by Tracy makes it worth showing up, all by itself, and that line right there is the peak.
 
Make Kirk not turn his back to a still dangerous enemy in the cell. Have Kirk not lose fight after fight to a senior citizen. Have Shatner not overdo, even for him, his dramatic interpretation of a legal document. Insert a CGI shot that shows phasered natives as far as the eye can see. Have Tracey be as wrong about how long one of their years is as he was about the contagion, so that you can introduce some logical reason why the Constitution and the flag are exactly like that found on another planet.

Or, leave it alone.
 
WAIT - is that true about a line being in the script originally saying the Yangs and Comms were earth-descended?!

b) That still wouldn't easily explain the parallel logically, since they're thousands of years old. You still end up with the parallel being crazily similar.

c) Which is really the whole point, isn't it? To have a USA episode with the flag and snippets of the Star Spangled Banner playing, and the E Plebnista? You had an allegory to the Cold War in "Private Little War." This is a USA parallel episode becuase it sounded or felt good to do one (or filled out a production schedule). If you drop all the obvious parallels, you kind of eliminate the whole ep., and wind up with "Private Little War" again. I say leave it and enjoy the schlock. My 10 year olds loved it. When Shatner gets it and takes over the Preamble in Shatnerese -- great stuff of which Star Trek legends are made. Thanks for the thought-provoking post. E Plebnista!

My 13yr old nephew loved it too. I have to admit I fell asleep when they aired it last week, but I woke up during the constitution tirade. Of course he was still up and I was a little afraid my nephew was going to be turned off but that doesn't seem possible...not matter what TOS does.. LOL..he absolutely loved Shatner going into overdrive...so I'd have to say I'd leave this episode alone for the most part.... but I would insert some line in there somehow to explain the improbable similarities with Earth. It should of been addressed!

On another note...these filmed scenes that were cut from the final episode...can't they edit them back in now? Why is there no Trek that has missing/deleted scenes...and can we see these scenes anywhere?
 
Had to look it up. He may not look it but Morgan Woodward was 42 when he did "Omega Glory". Hardly a senior citizen. In fact he's still alive today or at least imdb doesn't list a date of death. The Pitted Bastard lives on!

Robert

Edit: I know the 'senior citizen' remark was just a joke but still, I got curious.
 
He may not look it but Morgan Woodward was 42 when he did "Omega Glory". Hardly a senior citizen.

Oh, were we talking about Woodward there? I thought the "senior citizen" who beat Kirk up was "Cloud William" - but on quick check I see that Roy Jenson was only about 41 at the time, too. So neither of them had more than five or six years on Kirk (and even less on Shatner). :lol:
 
Never occured to me Roy Jenson may be the senior citizen. Heh, so Kirk was getting his ass kicked be TWO senior citizens!

Robert
 
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