Because one is an artistic decision the other is a crime.
So, the "Torchbearer..."
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Because one is an artistic decision the other is a crime.
Okay, first of all, the whole "respecting the setting" thing is highly debatable, and people on TrekBBS can and do have that debate. But whether you agree with the creative decisions or not doesn't give you the right to straight up steal it. That is just never acceptable. It's fucked up, in fact. If you disagree with the creative decisions, then don't watch it. But don't justify theft as some kind of holy crusade for the soul of Star Trek. GTFO with that bullshit.
As the Klingons you love so much would say, "You have no honor, petaQ."
I remember the passing around of the blooper reels and such, maybe recording the reruns and having friends over to see them, but I don't remember it being piracy by what piracy generally is.
Just because you don't like the show doesn't mean you watch the series via pirated channels. Whether you respect their copyright or not, they own it and watching it unlawfully isn't the best course of action.
Then again, if you don't like the series and its setting, why the hell are you going to bother watching it anyway?
Because in the realm of fiction, even setting is allowed to be reinterpreted. It won't be to everyone's liking, but it was never going to. The producers cannot reasonably concern themselves with how the entirety of their viewing audience may potentially respond to the creative choices they make. They're taking a calculated risk every time they do.
However, if their decision to reinterpret elements of Star Trek leads you to self-justify theft (let's not sugarcoat it), then you have bigger problems than their decision to make things make different from how they came before. A very childish attitude, for one.
I'm not 100% sold on the design direction they're taking the klingons in. But goddamn if they aren't givin their absolute best! The level of detail is astonishing! Well done!
Ironically, we have now two sculpts of klingon heads - the one on this knife, and the one on the sarcophagus from the trailer - and both look IMO way more klingon than the new klingons themselves! And that simply by virtue of having eyebrows, beards and hair. Shows you how much that is ingrained in the design language for klingons in Star Trek, since that has been a consistency since more than 50 years. Hope we'll see some DIS-klingons with beards later on as well... I guess they'll be much faster accepted by the fan community.
I'm not absolutely certain, but the face on the d'k tahg appears to have bushy eyebrows.
Ironically, we have now two sculpts of klingon heads - the one on this knife, and the one on the sarcophagus from the trailer - and both look IMO way more klingon than the new klingons themselves! And that simply by virtue of having eyebrows, beards and hair. Shows you how much that is ingrained in the design language for klingons in Star Trek, since that has been a consistency since more than 50 years. Hope we'll see some DIS-klingons with beards later on as well... I guess they'll be much faster accepted by the fan community.
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There are plenty of people who are unhappy with what they've seen from DSC and some are so unhappy (despite the fact that all we really have is a brief trailer so far) that they're refusing to watch it. Some people are angry that the show is on CBSAA and they're refusing to watch DSC for that reason. My own gf will probably end up falling into the latter category on sheer principle, even though I'm the one paying the CBSAA bill every month. While I disagree personally, these are perfectly valid personal views and choices.
What is not valid is basing whether you pay content creators (and yes even license-owning corporations) for their labor on whether you agree with their artistic decisions or not.
Also, I'm pretty sure bragging about or advocating pirating content is a violation of TrekBBS forum rules. So keep that in mind, Robin Hood.
Actually by Klingon standards I would have all the Honor since I am announcing exactly what I am going to do and why I am going to do it, before punching them in the face and stealing their stuff.
Alec Peters is that you?
And also....it's the law....
TPTB have no obligation to make the world look how you personally desire. Now, depending on the reaction from the fanbase and others in general, we will see if they have succeeded in their reinterpretation.
Too bad that Klingon standards don't mean jack in real life. In the real world, you're just a whiny, self-important thief.
Wow, you must have so much respect for Star Trek actors, writers, and producers to see them as people you can abuse and steal from. You're the best kind of Trekkie!
When its your property, then those decisions are yours to be made.
In this instance, its just stealing and impacting CBS revenue stream and demonstrating that Star Trek is viable for the future.
Beat me to it.
Fateor, promoting piracy is against the board rules. Please drop the subject now, or infractions will have to follow.
Had a friend once who tried to adhere Star Trek standards to the real world. I won't go too far into what happened to him, but he needed serious counseling afterward.
People have been doing a great many things they shouldn't for far longer than trek has been about. Doesn't make it right.
Media piracy started with the illegal translation of the bible into any-other other language than Latin, during the middle ages.
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Yes, but now we have the Internet, which makes it all ok.
Religion or piracy?
Piracy. Nobody cares about religion on the Internet
Sarcasm reading is off the scale, captain. It must be a mile in diameter.
But it can't have been for profit. That Gideon guy keeps leaving them behind in hotel rooms.
