So is that proposed Star Wars series dead?
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No, the audience expectations was a group of old nerds thinking that the PT would magical transform them into young nerds, but then after the 2.5 hours was over from EP 1, they realized that they are still old nerds.
I am one of those that like the PT better, I have seen all of the movies on the big screen, twice. I, also, like The Clone Wars cartoon, though I kind of wished it was about other Jedi with Skywalker and Kenobi as cameos.
I am one of those that like the PT better, I have seen all of the movies on the big screen, twice. I, also, like The Clone Wars cartoon, though I kind of wished it was about other Jedi with Skywalker and Kenobi as cameos.
And once again I agree with Bishop!
I used to have the cartoon on when I was doing my eliptical trainer session. I stopped watching it when I realized one day I cared more about the sweat dripping down my back than what was happening to the creepy-eyed CGI mannequins on tv.
Still, at least they have the excuse of BEING creepy-eyed CGI mannequins - Lucas has NO excuse for what he did to the real-life actors in the PT!
Yeah and "Transformers 2" was WAAAAYYYYYYY kewller than ANY of those stupid old films that Hitchcock guy did..........right?
signed - Old Nerd who knows that "Vertigo" diareahs over ANYTHING Michael Bay can pewk up
Because a mini-series is even more expensive to make per episode. A series gets to amortize startup costs over 13-24 episodes. A mini-series can only spread those costs over 4-6 episodes.
Mini-series are awkward to schedule on TV as well, without the potential reward of syndication later on(which I believe The Clone Wars is aiming for).
And I doubt DVD sales are nearly as good as a normal series.
And I doubt DVD sales are nearly as good as a normal series.
BSG did very well out of a miniseries though, and out of all the other shows to ever air on TV, I think BSG is the perfect blueprint for such a series. It was a very dark show, but it had the right mix of character/story development and some amazing space battle VFX and explosions, which were always spread pretty evenly throughout the series. And from what I remember, BSG wasnt exactly the highest budgeted TV show of all time. Of course, that cost was offset by a group of investors and I think Lucas wants to go it alone so he doesnt have defer to anyone, so that's probably the barrier thats holding it back.
The cost/benefit ratio would be even worse. If a TV show doesn't make financial sense, I don't see how a miniseries could. If they just want to test the waters, go forward with a TV series and cancel it when the ratings suck. The usual approach.
Yeah - before TCW, I fully expected for Star Wars to never produce anything of interest as long as Lucas was alive.
But I don't see TCW as representing lowered expectations. The storytelling is more coherent than the PT (would be hard not to be) and more varied and nuanced than the OT.
The artwork takes some getting used to, true. But any animated approach would have its drawbacks. I'm ok with the look now.
Yeah, miniseries run a very fine line on the cost/benefit gambit.
BSG's miniseries was obviously a backdoor pilot. The story was only set up, it wasn't in any way a complete story like a true miniseries, with a beginning, middle and end. So the intent was always to go to series unless the ratings sucked. It's the same thing as just trotting out a few episodes and seeing how the ratings do. Calling it a miniseries is a face-saving measure if the series gets cancelled - "we always intended to do that."
BSG's miniseries was obviously a backdoor pilot. The story was only set up, it wasn't in any way a complete story like a true miniseries, with a beginning, middle and end. So the intent was always to go to series unless the ratings sucked. It's the same thing as just trotting out a few episodes and seeing how the ratings do. Calling it a miniseries is a face-saving measure if the series gets cancelled - "we always intended to do that."
Exactly - so what's wrong with doing that with Star Wars? Everyone wants a series, so testing the waters with a backdoor mini makes sense, no?
Supposedly he's already got a bunch of scripts commissioned for this thing. I imagine if he can't make the budget work, he might recycle those into an animated version of the concept.
One thing we might all be able to agree on is that Lucas knows how to work a balance sheet. If he can make the numbers come out, we'll see the show, if not, we won't.
At least until Katie, Amanda, and Jet take over.
One thing we might all be able to agree on is that Lucas knows how to work a balance sheet. If he can make the numbers come out, we'll see the show, if not, we won't.
At least until Katie, Amanda, and Jet take over.
And CG writers to write them.
I thought that's what the PT was.
I have a feeling that it's deader than dead in a live action world and after The Clone wars is beaten to death you couldn't tell what it was then he will make the idea for the live action show into a CGI cartoon just like Clone Wars.
I don't see why the cost is a big deal. I mean, he's a billionaire, he could accidentally drop change out of his pocket and fund three seasons right there.
Star Trek managed to do it upward of $2 million an episode in the later years, so even if he sinks $5 million into an episode it's still only $100 million per season.
Oh listen to me, throwing $100 million around like it's candy.
Here's a crazy thought; why not go film in the jungles of south america, then come back and add a couple of colourful birds flying overhead and hey presto, an alien world. Cheap as chips.
Hell, the entire Babylon 5 series was made for $90 million.
Star Trek managed to do it upward of $2 million an episode in the later years, so even if he sinks $5 million into an episode it's still only $100 million per season.
Oh listen to me, throwing $100 million around like it's candy.
Here's a crazy thought; why not go film in the jungles of south america, then come back and add a couple of colourful birds flying overhead and hey presto, an alien world. Cheap as chips.
Hell, the entire Babylon 5 series was made for $90 million.
Speak for yourself, I think Katie Lucas has written some of the best episodes of The Clone Wars, and considering the Clone Wars in general is regarded as better than the prequels anyway, I think Katie Lucas has certainly 1 upped her dad, at least when it comes to recent work.
^ Yes, indeed. The prequels, at least, can be watched once. Two and three can be watched more than once, if you fastforward through certain parts. I wasn't able to abide Clone Wars more than ten minutes. Ugly graphics, infantile writing--hasn't nothing to recommend it.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
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