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So I finally watched it...

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So I finally got around to watching Generations (yeah, I know, where have I been? It's an older movie). Anyways, I regret the dollar i spent renting it. It was terrible.

First, it's not even really about Soran, or the Klingon sisters who want to conquer the empire. They're just a backdrop to keep you interested. It's about Data's emotions, and Picard being depressed becuase he never settled down or took the time to make a family.

My problems? The initiation of Worf as a Lt. Commander. It was creative, but frankly stupid. The only upside was Data pushing Crusher into the ocean. THe face Data made when he overloading was terrifying. The corny jokes were horrendous. Data making a puppet out of that device was dispicable. Never show me La Forge without a shirt on, thank you :scream:. I nearly actually went and turned it off when Data began singing the Lifeforms Song. Really? They exploded that Warbird WAY too easy. THe Nexus idea was idiotic. WHy bring Kirk back at all, just so he can die a meaningless death. Sure, it was fitting, and he "died making a difference". Very silly when Data cried when he found Spot.

THe only good part was the beginning, being the action on the Enterprise-B, and the banter between Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov. That was it. Anyone else very dissapionted in the movie?
 
So I finally got around to watching Generations (yeah, I know, where have I been? It's an older movie). Anyways, I regret the dollar i spent renting it. It was terrible.

First, it's not even really about Soran, or the Klingon sisters who want to conquer the empire. They're just a backdrop to keep you interested. It's about Data's emotions, and Picard being depressed becuase he never settled down or took the time to make a family.

My problems? The initiation of Worf as a Lt. Commander. It was creative, but frankly stupid. The only upside was Data pushing Crusher into the ocean. THe face Data made when he overloading was terrifying. The corny jokes were horrendous. Data making a puppet out of that device was dispicable. Never show me La Forge without a shirt on, thank you :scream:. I nearly actually went and turned it off when Data began singing the Lifeforms Song. Really? They exploded that Warbird WAY too easy. THe Nexus idea was idiotic. WHy bring Kirk back at all, just so he can die a meaningless death. Sure, it was fitting, and he "died making a difference". Very silly when Data cried when he found Spot.

THe only good part was the beginning, being the action on the Enterprise-B, and the banter between Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov. That was it. Anyone else very dissapionted in the movie?

To be fair, almost all of the scenes you quoted only took up roughly ten minutes of total screen time altogether. The rest of the movie wasn't that bad. It was far from perfect, but then again, compare it to Nemesis. Need I say more?
 
I just made some similar complaints in the ranking TNG movies thread. I really hated the failed attempts at humour with Data and how they wasted the character of Kirk more than anything else. The Kirk stuff bothers me more now that I've become a fan of the original series. I wasn't back when I saw the movie, but even then I could see it was a really misguided way to use that character.
 
I love the bit in the review for Nemesis (part 3 or 4, I can't recall...) where Frakes talks about how the audience wants action.

"Wrong! WRONG, you asshole! WRONG!"

:lol:
 
So I finally got around to watching Generations (yeah, I know, where have I been? It's an older movie). Anyways, I regret the dollar i spent renting it. It was terrible.

First, it's not even really about Soran, or the Klingon sisters who want to conquer the empire. They're just a backdrop to keep you interested. It's about Data's emotions, and Picard being depressed becuase he never settled down or took the time to make a family.

My problems? The initiation of Worf as a Lt. Commander. It was creative, but frankly stupid. The only upside was Data pushing Crusher into the ocean. THe face Data made when he overloading was terrifying. The corny jokes were horrendous. Data making a puppet out of that device was dispicable. Never show me La Forge without a shirt on, thank you :scream:. I nearly actually went and turned it off when Data began singing the Lifeforms Song. Really? They exploded that Warbird WAY too easy. THe Nexus idea was idiotic. WHy bring Kirk back at all, just so he can die a meaningless death. Sure, it was fitting, and he "died making a difference". Very silly when Data cried when he found Spot.

THe only good part was the beginning, being the action on the Enterprise-B, and the banter between Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov. That was it. Anyone else very dissapionted in the movie?

You pretty much captured everything that ruined the movie for me.

1. I wanted to see the TNG crew in action aboard the Enterprise D, not on a Holodeck on an old sailing ship. Pushing Worf into the water was not funny at all, yet the crew finds it histerical. Data pushing Crusher was funnier, yet this is not funny to them.

2. Spiner's acting was downright horrid. He reminded me of Brendan Fraser in George of the Jungle. He looked like he had just popped a pill of acid or something.

3. The whole Nexus plot was insanely non sensical. Nothing in it made any sense whatsoever, the worst part of it being Soran using a ship to get to it originally, then after not being able to use a ship, because...he just can't! :rolleyes:

4. The Enterprise D dies, and TNG with it.

And last but not least, and this one was the deal breaker:

5. Kirk dies. Period.
 
^ Exactly. It just seemed WRONG for Data to be smiling and laughing. Maybe they could have pulled it off, but Brent Spiner certainly didn't. It's like he had no idea what to do with this new side of Data.
 
I laughed at "Mr. Tricorder". I giggled at "Tiny little life forms".
Generations was a decent TV-movie (except it wasn't a TV movie). IMO if they'd just made it Earth or Vulcan or some planet anyone cares about that he died saving people would have been less dissapointed by Kirk's demise.

I mean, he died under a bridge (hobo-style) on a planet no-one's ever heard of saving a bunch of people nobody cares about. Move it to Vulcan, Earth, Andor or even Kronos or Romulus and it's a (at least vaguely) heroic death.
 
I mean, he died under a bridge (hobo-style) on a planet no-one's ever heard of saving a bunch of people nobody cares about. Move it to Vulcan, Earth, Andor or even Kronos or Romulus and it's a (at least vaguely) heroic death.
Sadly some real life heroes have indeed met their death in obscurity.

Candidly from the beginning I really disliked this idea. I would rather they had never addressed this issue. I liked it before GEN when we had no idea what happened to Kirk in the later years. It let us imagine him still out there somewhere making a difference.
 
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