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So, Enterprise

I like the "future astronauts" feel of the first two seasons, while I enjoy the story arcs and mini-arcs of the final 2 seasons. I think Ent does a great job taking elements of TOS and making them its own in season 4...as long as you can accept that "canon" may be somewhat different(possibly because of the change in time-line from STFC).

RAMA
 
Well I was interested in seeing the Enterprise D on "These are the Voyages" so we watched that two days ago... pretty interesting, but I dunno.... guess we'll just wait until we're finished with Voyager and then move on and give Ent more of a chance.
 
I'm not one to bump threads but it seemed silly to start a new thread just to follow-up on this particular one. I've begun renting ENT through Netflix.

Despite what I said about starting with the third season, I started with "Broken Bow". I got a kick out of seeing Mark Moses play Archer's father. All I could think of was Duck Phillips from Mad Men. I watched "Broken Bow" with the commentary on. I can see what Rick Berman and Brannon Braga were going for now. They even acknowledged ENT wasn't everyone's "cup of tea" but they were going for something different. Yes, I was one of the people who didn't think they made it different enough. It helps to understand the thought process behind what went into making ENT, so the commentary was insightful.

"Fight or Flight" made the best use of the 22nd Century timeframe between Hoshi's uneasiness with being in space and the lack of ability to communicate with with aliens. I enjoyed this episode in 2001 as well.

"Strange New Worlds" was a good episode as well. I don't have much to say about it.

If I recall, it was "The Andorian Incident" that turned me off of ENT. The ending rubbed me the wrong way at the time, I was burned out on Star Trek, I was working at night (and attending college during the day), so I set the VCR to record the series after making sure to be home for the first two episodes. Then I stopped even taping it.
 
Funnily enough, I wasn't too hot for the new show until "The Andorian Incident" aired. I thought "Broken Bow" was pretty good (but then, I was fourteen at the time) and the following episodes were only decent.
 
I just got finished re-watching "The Andorian Incident" for the first time since it aired nine years ago. Good episode. What rubbed me the wrong way in '01 was Archer turning over the research data to the Andorians. It came across to me as biting the hand that fed them, but since humans aren't on the best terms with Vulcans and wouldn't like being things hidden from them, Archer having T'Pol hand over the tricorder makes sense. It was a tough call but the right one considering that Archer realized he had taken a series of beatings for nothing.

It seems clear to me now that I was burned out on Trek, being 22 at the time I was too easily influenced by what others were saying, and no one was persuading me about the quality of the series in the forum of old. In the heat a flame wars, which I wanted to avoid as much as possible, it's so easy to use a stick that people forget there are carrots out there too. In any case, I was way too close to be objective and now that there's been a distance in time and perspective, I can see the series for what it is.
 
what archer did at the end of andorian incident is going to echo all through the rest of the series...
one of things i liked was the strength of the actors.. how the characters interacted and well were not perfect.
 
Reading about the flame wars, I regret not watching the show during its original run and participating. It wasn't that I had anything against the show, but having just moved to Las Vegas and being single, watching weekly TV wasn't high on my list of priorities. I didn't get to watch ENT until last year, and I'm glad I gave it a chance.

But from what I hear, things were really chippy around here. Hard to imagine.
 
^ I remember having more than one heated exchange with Stewie those times were annoying but fun at the same time.

Just watched the Orion episode Bound and I remember some one on here saying the gym was used when characters were really frustrated and after seeing those green babes for 42 mins...

I need a gym, GOD DAM :scream:
 
-The series finale episode is perhaps the worst episode of Star Trek ever produced. It had lots of potential and could have been great if they just stuck to formation of the UFP. Better off pretending the second to last episode is the finale.
Finally a Trek episode thats actually WORSE than TOS' Spock's Brain !!!!!!!!
 
^ I remember having more than one heated exchange with Stewie those times were annoying but fun at the same time.

Just watched the Orion episode Bound and I remember some one on here saying the gym was used when characters were really frustrated and after seeing those green babes for 42 mins...

I need a gym, GOD DAM :scream:

Hey, someone remembered my post about sexual frustration and the gym. Cool!

Hope you find that gym...you can work your BICEPS.

And I put this one on the same rewatch level as "Spock's Brain." Both are way more enjoyable than dull but competent episodes.
 
I've now seen up through "Shuttlepod One". I remember a thread from way back when asking if "Stinky" was a reference to the TrekBBS poster Mr. Stinky Pants. I have a hard time believing the writers would read TrekBBS or, if they did, that they'd follow it closely enough to know who members are, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't give me a brief pause. "Shuttlepod One" was a very down-to-"space" episode. When Trip and Reed were talking about how to spend their final days, it reminded me a bit of the film Stranded (2001) when an Earth ship in the near-future crash-lands on Mars and the crew has to figure out how to survive long enough for help to arrive.

"Shadows of P'Jem" was an intriguing sequel to "The Andorian Incident" is actually what I thought "Breaking the Ice" was going to be.

My favorite episodes so far are "Silent Enemy", "Breaking the Ice", "Fight or Flight", and "Fortunate Son".

The weakest episode, which still wasn't a bad episode, is "Terra Nova".

I'm glad "Sleeping Dogs" made clear the Klingons in this series were not going to be the ones in TNG and beyond no matter what Archer would try to come up with to reason with them.

If Earth becomes closer to Andoria, following the events of "P'Jem" and TAI, I wonder how the Vulcans will react...
 
After watching the series again a few months ago, I was really surprised how much I liked Silent Enemy. It may not be the best episode of the season (That probably going to either Shockwave or Detained), but it was up there.
 
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