So the new movie adaptation will have the deleted scenes included.http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/15/exc...ion-details-on-comic-con-countdown-exclusive/ So does this mean no EXTENDED cut dvd?
So does this mean we wont get the EXTENDED edition Blu-ray?
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Why would it mean that? Just curious why you would think so.
I am hoping for a Blu Ray that has 2 theatrical versions...
I am hoping for a Blu Ray that has 2 theatrical versions...
Hasn't Abrams indicated that he doesn't want to put most of the cut footage back into the movie proper?
That would certainly make sense - he radically restructured the beginning of the movie, for example, because he didn't think the original opening worked.
That would certainly make sense - he radically restructured the beginning of the movie, for example, because he didn't think the original opening worked.
Hopefully the Star Trek (09) adaptation will be better than the recent TWOK adaptation.
And hopefull the Blu-ray will contain whatever version of the film the JJ thinks is best and not a Special Longer Because Longer is Always Better Because It's Longer Version.
And hopefull the Blu-ray will contain whatever version of the film the JJ thinks is best and not a Special Longer Because Longer is Always Better Because It's Longer Version.
I admire Ridley Scott for the fact that the DVD "Director's Cut" of the original Alien is actually a minute shorter than the theatrical release. 
Agreed. If Abrams could integrate the deleted footage as seamlessly as Cameron did with the Aliens Director's Cut, I'd be okay with it.
But if it's going to destroy the flow of the movie like these Director's Cuts usually do, then no thanks.
I believe Abrams has indeed indicated that he considers the theatrical version a "director's cut", and therefore the way he wants the film to be seen. That would probably mean no extended edition on the DVD. I'd imagine there will be a deleted scenes feature, though.
I'm okay with that -- I certainly think the film is quite good as is. Nevertheless, I do wonder if the flow of the movie would really be disrupted all that much if some of the deleted scenes were inserted back in. Obviously, not all of them would work (I find it hard to picture the movie opening with Spock's birth on Vulcan rather than with the attack on the Kelvin/Kirk's birth, which is a very dynamic opening scene), but I tend to think that some might. The rest can just be included in the aforementioned deleted scenes bonus feature.
I'm okay with that -- I certainly think the film is quite good as is. Nevertheless, I do wonder if the flow of the movie would really be disrupted all that much if some of the deleted scenes were inserted back in. Obviously, not all of them would work (I find it hard to picture the movie opening with Spock's birth on Vulcan rather than with the attack on the Kelvin/Kirk's birth, which is a very dynamic opening scene), but I tend to think that some might. The rest can just be included in the aforementioned deleted scenes bonus feature.
sorry if this has already been mentioned, but does anyone know what will be extra in the 3 disk blu ray dvd? http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/star-trek/dvd
There are two major kinds of "extended cuts" released to DVD. One is labeled "Director's Cut" and almost always represents a re-working of a theatrical release was not entirely what the director had in mind (not that he is necessarily upset with the theatrical cut, but that he preferred something else). And a "director's cut" is not always longer, by the way.
Another is an "extended cut/edition". This type is frequently released by studios without necessarily having the director's consent, though such consent is sometimes given. These cuts are, as the name implies, longer than the theatrical release.
For the ultimate in various cuts, Blade Runner is a very good example. The Blu-ray (and dvd) release that came out in 2007 includes FIVE different cuts of the film. Since one of them was already called "The Director's Cut", the most recent one was called "The Final Cut".
ST:TMP has all three--a theatrical cut, an extended edition (w/o director approval) and a director's cut (which is shorter than the threatrical cut).
Oliver Stone's Alexander has three cuts--all director approved, each fairly different than the other.
Peter Jackson has said the theatrical cuts of the LOTR series are what he considers "the director's cut". The extended versions have his approval and are done by him, but he never intended them to be shown in theatres.
Abrams has said, on more than one occasion, that the theatrical cut is what he prefers and can thus be considered a "director's cut". If any of you are holding out for an "extended edition", I believe you will be disappointed. Cut scenes will be on the disc, but I highly doubt any of them will be integrated into the film. Perhaps some time from now, if Abrams no longer has pull in Paramount, someone else will edit and release an "extended cut" (or maybe Abrams will have a change of heart). I would NOT bet any money on that happening for the upcoming release, though.
Another is an "extended cut/edition". This type is frequently released by studios without necessarily having the director's consent, though such consent is sometimes given. These cuts are, as the name implies, longer than the theatrical release.
For the ultimate in various cuts, Blade Runner is a very good example. The Blu-ray (and dvd) release that came out in 2007 includes FIVE different cuts of the film. Since one of them was already called "The Director's Cut", the most recent one was called "The Final Cut".
ST:TMP has all three--a theatrical cut, an extended edition (w/o director approval) and a director's cut (which is shorter than the threatrical cut).
Oliver Stone's Alexander has three cuts--all director approved, each fairly different than the other.
Peter Jackson has said the theatrical cuts of the LOTR series are what he considers "the director's cut". The extended versions have his approval and are done by him, but he never intended them to be shown in theatres.
Abrams has said, on more than one occasion, that the theatrical cut is what he prefers and can thus be considered a "director's cut". If any of you are holding out for an "extended edition", I believe you will be disappointed. Cut scenes will be on the disc, but I highly doubt any of them will be integrated into the film. Perhaps some time from now, if Abrams no longer has pull in Paramount, someone else will edit and release an "extended cut" (or maybe Abrams will have a change of heart). I would NOT bet any money on that happening for the upcoming release, though.
Most 3rd discs in 3 disc Blu-ray releases are "digital copies" that can be downloaded to your computer or your iPod/iPhone or other portable media device. I have a number of them in my Blu-ray collection (though I never use them).
)And yet all were still terrible.
Some Blu-ray features require web access. For instance, in order to get all of the documantaries on the new T2 disk, you have to go through Blu-ray Live and get them online.
Other disks have web only content as well.
Other disks have web only content as well.
I'm torn two ways on that.
You pay for the disc [set?], and then find out some of the stuff isn't even there unless you can get onto a high speed internet connection. And of course EVERYONE has that, not to mention the ability to channel it thru your TV.
On the other hand, it could be claimed the online stuff is "extras" beyond what you paid for.
Eh.
Doesn't excite me. I don't have a Blu-Ray machine yet and will only be buying the DVD, and hoping the deleted scenes are on that version too. (If they aren't, I shall pout mightily.)
I'd just like the option of seeing it with the deleted scenes added in.
I don't know what the Trekkie canonites will decide, but I plan to view the deleted scenes as fill-in-the-blank stuff that DID happen, but just was cut either for time or flow purposes.
Scouring BtVS/AtS scripts for deleted scenes is one of my favorite hobbies (they seemed to almost always have runtime issues where stuff had to be tragically cut). The loss of Angel licking Tina's blood in the relapse scene that makes the beginning of City Of... actually make sense, Buffy saying she slept with Parker to prove that she was over Angel, etc... Those are tragic. I'm into elongated footage. My dream is getting restored (those early seasons are desperately in need of it), widescreen (some are available in Europe) and uncut BtVS/AtS episodes. I'd also kill to get those guest credits put on a subtitle track to make fanvidding a lot more fun.
Three hours of Amadeus is my drug (20 minutes longer than the theatrical cut--if only they hadn't gone back and dubbed out the Czech-accented "Händel" with an American voice saying "Bendel" because of whiny classical nerds getting offended that Händel got insulted--that's actually my biggest complaint about that cut--there's also a slight loss of Leopold's "...If anybody feels like it!" rant--but I gladly give it up for the scenes that were dumped back in--which WERE the original cut!).
And I admit to liking director's cuts (the kinds that put in extra completed scenes--not half-assed attempts at making the Han/human Jabba scene work). Often the scenes fill in things that really do mean something and even the ones that don't sometimes add in sweet little character moments that deserve to be there.
The only director's cut that has yet to push my limits is Return Of The King. Those Rohan/Gondor scenes are brutal. Ironically, my favorite scene from Fellowship Of The Ring is the hobbits in the tavern singing.
I've actually never seen the theatrical cut of Blade Runner. I've only ever seen the first director's cut.
HOWEVER. George Lucas should be banned from editing anything. One word: Greedo. We want completed deleted scenes that do fit into the story (a real director's cut) and we mostly get raped footage that just makes everything twice as silly.
I want the baby Spock scenes and I don't think they should be considered non-canon just because the film needed to open with Kirk's birth. It sounds like Winona Ryder especially got screwed with the theatrical cut. There's about three of her scenes that were cut (going by the novelization for clues of what scenes were in the script at some point). Kirk using Gaila to reprogram the Kobayashi Maru was something that was needed, IMO. And Nero would be a far more interesting character if we saw more of him (the Rura Penthe scene).
Scouring BtVS/AtS scripts for deleted scenes is one of my favorite hobbies (they seemed to almost always have runtime issues where stuff had to be tragically cut). The loss of Angel licking Tina's blood in the relapse scene that makes the beginning of City Of... actually make sense, Buffy saying she slept with Parker to prove that she was over Angel, etc... Those are tragic. I'm into elongated footage. My dream is getting restored (those early seasons are desperately in need of it), widescreen (some are available in Europe) and uncut BtVS/AtS episodes. I'd also kill to get those guest credits put on a subtitle track to make fanvidding a lot more fun.
Three hours of Amadeus is my drug (20 minutes longer than the theatrical cut--if only they hadn't gone back and dubbed out the Czech-accented "Händel" with an American voice saying "Bendel" because of whiny classical nerds getting offended that Händel got insulted--that's actually my biggest complaint about that cut--there's also a slight loss of Leopold's "...If anybody feels like it!" rant--but I gladly give it up for the scenes that were dumped back in--which WERE the original cut!).
And I admit to liking director's cuts (the kinds that put in extra completed scenes--not half-assed attempts at making the Han/human Jabba scene work). Often the scenes fill in things that really do mean something and even the ones that don't sometimes add in sweet little character moments that deserve to be there.
The only director's cut that has yet to push my limits is Return Of The King. Those Rohan/Gondor scenes are brutal. Ironically, my favorite scene from Fellowship Of The Ring is the hobbits in the tavern singing.
I've actually never seen the theatrical cut of Blade Runner. I've only ever seen the first director's cut.
HOWEVER. George Lucas should be banned from editing anything. One word: Greedo. We want completed deleted scenes that do fit into the story (a real director's cut) and we mostly get raped footage that just makes everything twice as silly.
I want the baby Spock scenes and I don't think they should be considered non-canon just because the film needed to open with Kirk's birth. It sounds like Winona Ryder especially got screwed with the theatrical cut. There's about three of her scenes that were cut (going by the novelization for clues of what scenes were in the script at some point). Kirk using Gaila to reprogram the Kobayashi Maru was something that was needed, IMO. And Nero would be a far more interesting character if we saw more of him (the Rura Penthe scene).
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They need to stop doing these. Almost every single "extended cut" has been a rip off excuse to charge more for it. The extension for The Number 23? 5 seconds of boobies. The extension for Taken? Reediting a scene so we get to see Liam driving nails into a guy's knees. If I'm going to pay for extra material, I really want extra material. I will inevitably buy and "extended edition" of Star Trek if it happens, but I either want them to go all in or not do it at all.
To be fair, the "extended" cut of TAKEN merely restores the original European cut of the movie which was re-edited to get a PG-13 in America.