SNW truly respects TOS continuity!
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Obviously SNW is not literally trying to look like TOS. It's trying for the spirit of TOS. And in that, I think they're doing great.
Oops. My bad.
Still, though, since SNW uses a different studio set for the Enterprise than DSC did, some inconsistencies are to be expected. And in any case, it's easy enough to explain; there's refits, and also some decks may look different from others.
Although my opinion re: different ships having different looks, still stands. The Discovery, for example, looks nothing like the Enterprise, but this is also easy to explain, since IIRC they were built at different shipyards.
Oops. My bad.
Still, though, since SNW uses a different studio set for the Enterprise than DSC did, some inconsistencies are to be expected. And in any case, it's easy enough to explain; there's refits, and also some decks may look different from others.
Although my opinion re: different ships having different looks, still stands. The Discovery, for example, looks nothing like the Enterprise, but this is also easy to explain, since IIRC they were built at different shipyards.
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That tricorder is even more retro than the TOS prop except for having a flatscreen display. That's so TOS it's getting high right now on the brown acid.
The ridiculousness of your statement knows no bounds.
Whatever you say dude. You see what you want to see and I’ll see what I see. I have nothing further to say to you.
Bare...minimum...
The ridiculousness of your statement knows no bounds.
The hacks. Should have hired James Cawley.
Bare...minimum...
The hacks. Should have hired James Cawley.
Do you just like picking and choosing parts of people’s posts to smugly reply to, or do you actually bother to read the whole thing?
I was just speaking tongue in cheek. Having a small joke and a sensible chuckle.
And, of course, my bad, I again forgot the winky.
Let me be clear: I understand the perspective of wanting it closer to TOS, rather than a modern interpretation of TOS designs. I understand the desire to have it look the same in order to keep the visual continuity. I would prefer that, in a perfect world.
And playing "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds."
It’s all good. Sorry for my overly defensive response.
The opposite, really.
I think it's pretty obvious that the Producers are going more for a TMP than TOS look to the Enterprise and her interiors.
At first, I was a bit taken back, but then it dawned on me that Roddenberry was the one who approved all the changes between the two to begin with.
Obviously he felt that TOS was lacking in some manner and he wanted the drastic changes made to better realize his ideas about the show, so who am I to disagree.
I believe that we should be comparing apples to apples, not to oranges.
If one compares SNW to TMP, the look is a Hell of a lot closer.
At first, I was a bit taken back, but then it dawned on me that Roddenberry was the one who approved all the changes between the two to begin with.
Obviously he felt that TOS was lacking in some manner and he wanted the drastic changes made to better realize his ideas about the show, so who am I to disagree.
I believe that we should be comparing apples to apples, not to oranges.
If one compares SNW to TMP, the look is a Hell of a lot closer.
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If they were. they'd have more actual CRT screens on the Bridge and elsewhere.I think it's pretty obvious that the Producers are going more for a TMP than TOS look to the Enterprise and her interiors.
At first, I was a bit taken back, but then it dawned on me that Roddenberry was the one who approved all the changes between the two to begin with.
Obviously he felt that TOS was lacking in some manner and he wanted the drastic changes made to better realize his ideas about the show, so who am I to disagree.
I believe that we should be comparing apples to apples, not to oranges.
If one compares SNW to TMP, the look is a Hell of a lot closer.
(For me - a lot of the displays in TMP looked more 'primitive' then what was 'shown' in TOS - and yes that's because they were able to do some 'live' displays on camera with what is today some primitive PC graphics, which were state of the art in 1979. Doesn't change how it comes across in the real world 43 yeas later though.)
Indeed, from a design standpoint it's significantly less advanced than it's 1960s counterpart. The straps are on posts rather than integrated into the sides, and the screen is covered by a flap rather than rotating open. The original also had a storage compartment that could be accessed at all times. I can only assume this is deliberate, partially since it's an earlier model, and partially because it would be even more expensive to make it they included the rotating head. The guts to allow the screen to actually work are too big to let the head rotate.
When SNW gets things right it gets them so right it brings a nerd tear to my eye. The tricorder. The communicator. The phaser. They're all brilliant forerunners to the TOS props.
Your reaction is understandable because it's never going to be a perfect line up. And my usual snarkiness probably didn't help.
But, like I said, in my perfect world, SNW would have TOS style recreation with very minimal modern touches. However, that is also not my experience with Star Trek since TMP and TWOK. Things get changed with little reason given and I have come to be OK with the idea that events happen but it probably didn't look like TOS.
Has it? It's been central to the franchise for all that time, but I wouldn't say it was what kept it alive. Plenty of other IPs have managed to reboot while retaining and even increasing their popularity. Perhaps a bolder approach would have left Trek in an even better position. If nothing else, it might have spared us a few Troi appearances.
As long as Roddenberry was involved, there was going to be a Counselor Troi in TNG.
Beyond that, YES, TOS was what kept Star Trek alive for the first 25 years and longer.
Rejecting it would have resulted in it becoming something completely different and would have split the fanbase even more drastically than TNG did.
At least with TNG, it was the Original Creator continuing the mission which softened the blow.
Beyond that, YES, TOS was what kept Star Trek alive for the first 25 years and longer.
Rejecting it would have resulted in it becoming something completely different and would have split the fanbase even more drastically than TNG did.
At least with TNG, it was the Original Creator continuing the mission which softened the blow.
Ok so about the props.. Given the time period, isn't this too early for the TOS combo phasers? Shouldn't they be the guns that you actually had to turn the barrel to change power levels? It doesn't really bother me, but if we're being technical... Of course, if we're really being technical, they'd all be wearing ill-fitting mock turtlenecks. 
And potentially using hats.Ok so about the props.. Given the time period, isn't this too early for the TOS combo phasers? Shouldn't they be the guns that you actually had to turn the barrel to change power levels? It doesn't really bother me, but if we're being technical... Of course, if we're really being technical, they'd all be wearing ill-fitting mock turtlenecks.
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