SNW Chapel seems to have all of TOS Uhura traits.

[Voodoowoman2]

That scene in ST09 really is a prime example of rape culture: It literally depicts a man sexually harassing a woman by disregarding her stated boundaries seven times, but it depicts these actions as the charming antics of a harmless rake rather than as the indications of potential danger that they would be in reality.

Rape culture? All Uhura had to do was get up and walk away. This is not "rape culture" which is some strange twisted feminist icon word now. Rape is violent sexual assault. Kirk was being a jerk. They are not synomymous.

 

[Weyoun 251]

Rape culture? All Uhura had to do was get up and walk away. This is not "rape culture" which is some strange twisted feminist icon word now. Rape is violent sexual assault. Kirk was being a jerk. They are not synomymous.

Just not true - ignoring your distaste for feminism, excessive pressure and coercion to have sex with someone is rape. No two ways about it

 

[Sci]

Rape culture?

Yes. "Rape culture" is a term for a set of cultural values that normalize the idea that women's consent does not matter and that men have a right to impose their sexual desires upon women to some degree or other. If a movie spreads the idea that it's okay to sexually harass a woman because doing so is actually charming, then the idea that movie is spreading is an example of rape culture. It is called "rape culture" because the logical conclusion of the idea that women's consent does not matter is that sexual assault is okay.

All Uhura had to do was get up and walk away. This is not "rape culture" which is some strange twisted feminist icon word now.

The only reason to make that claim is if you don't understand the term and/or if you think that women aren't equal to men.

Rape is violent sexual assault. Kirk was being a jerk.

He was sexually harassing Uhura. In the real world, sexual harassment leads to rape when the culture indoctrinates people into thinking that sexual harassment is okay and women's consent does not matter. By depicting Kirk's acts of sexual harassment as somehow "charming," ST09 was spreading the idea that women's consent does not matter and that sexual harassment is okay. Thus, ST09 was acting as an agent of American rape culture (which manifests itself in many different aspects of American culture).

 

[Pauln6]

Yes. "Rape culture" is a term for a set of cultural values that normalize the idea that women's consent does not matter and that men have a right to impose their sexual desires upon women to some degree or other. If a movie spreads the idea that it's okay to sexually harass a woman because doing so is actually charming, then the idea that movie is spreading is an example of rape culture. It is called "rape culture" because the logical conclusion of the idea that women's consent does not matter is that sexual assault is okay.



The only reason to make that claim is if you don't understand the term and/or if you think that women aren't equal to men.



He was sexually harassing Uhura. In the real world, sexual harassment leads to rape when the culture indoctrinates people into thinking that sexual harassment is okay and women's consent does not matter. By depicting Kirk's acts of sexual harassment as somehow "charming," ST09 was spreading the idea that women's consent does not matter and that sexual harassment is okay. Thus, ST09 was acting as an agent of American rape culture (which manifests itself in many different aspects of American culture).

NuKirk was a dreadful hero on many levels but ST09 became the most successful Star Trek movie, adding to my belief that humanity is doomed because too many people endorse amorality, sexism, ignoring science when it feels right, the notion that might makes right, that celebrity success is more worthwhile than hard work and experience, and that excessive risk taking and summary revenge justice are cool.

The further each sequel rode away from that, less popular they became. Amoral people want to see movies where other amoral people beat the system and layering in enough heroic qualities to disguise that is very clever marketing.

Of course one man's amorality is another man's wet dream and I guess that's the point.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

Perhaps, much like the OP, we have lost our way. Seems like a good day to die.