Snoopers' Charter passed by Parliament and will become law within weeks

[Stephen!]

Disgraceful of Corbyn to cave in completely on this, but I guess that his sort of Marxism is exactly the sort of politics that Orwell's 1984 was warning us of.

Maybe this will get shot down by the EU. At least for a year or two, before the UK leaves Europe.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Maybe this will get shot down by the EU. At least for a year or two, before the UK leaves Europe.

Don't count on it. Seems this is a thing across a lot of the west . In the name of security you know. Even us here in Australia have it.

 

[Stephen!]

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-polic...back-blanket-data-slurp-illegal-top-eu-court/

The UK's recently passed Investigatory Powers Act hit a major snag on Wednesday morning, when Europe's highest court ruled that the "general and indiscriminate" retention of citizens' data communications is unlawful where it is not being slurped for serious crime cases.

It comes after then Tory backbencher David Davis—who removed his name from the case after being appointed Brexiter-in-chief by prime minister Theresa May—and Labour MP Tom Watson challenged the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act (DRIPA) that was rushed through by the UK government in 2014, after the EU's Data Retention Directive was found to be invalid.

On December 30, the government had hoped to expire DRIPA one day early, after controversial and sweeping powers on data retention were added to the Investigatory Powers Act, which only received royal assent late last month. DRIPA's sunset clause of December 31 2016, was added to the legislation on the insistence of the Liberal Democrats during their stint as the junior coalition partner under David Cameron's Tory-led government.

Ars sought comment from the home office on the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) ruling. It said:

We are disappointed with the judgment from the European Court of Justice and will be considering its potential implications.

It will now be for the Court of Appeal to determine the case. The government will be putting forward robust arguments to the Court of Appeal about the strength of our existing regime for communications data retention and access.

Given the importance of communications data to preventing and detecting crime, we will ensure plans are in place so that the police and other public authorities can continue to acquire such data in a way that is consistent with EU law and our obligation to protect the public.

In an accompanying DRIPA "factsheet," the government noted that the EU "does not have responsibility for national security so the judgment should not affect counter-terrorism investigations at all."

But "everyday policing" and other government agencies have suffered a significant blow to their ability to slurp electronic communications data as a result of the ruling, the home office admitted. It added that "contingency plans" were in place, without expanding on the detail.

It said: "We will do everything necessary to continue to allow the police and other authorities to access data in a way that is consistent with EU law and with our responsibilities to protect the public."

Liberal Democrat peer Brian Paddick, who campaigned against many of the sweeping powers contained within the Investigatory Powers Act, said in light of the CJEU ruling: "This dreadful piece of legislation will cost millions to implement and unless the government reconsider, they will inevitably face further embarrassment in the courts."

Europe's top court struck down the European Data Retention Directive in 2014 in the Digital Rights Ireland case, concluding that blanket data retention was a breach of fundamental rights. In the court’s opinion, such data retention "constituted serious interference with the fundamental rights to respect for private life and to the protection of personal data, and was not strictly necessary for the purpose of the fight against serious crime."

Watson and Davis' challenge to DRIPA was combined with a similar case brought by Swedish telco Tele2 Sverige.

In July, a CJEU advocate general opined that the UK's DRIPA spy law could be considered legal if adequate safeguards are in place. But Europe's top court made it clear on Wednesday that cops and government agencies can't simply authorise access to communications data. They need to seek prior consent from independent courts.

 

[Spot261]

Be very careful what you post here, they ARE listening,,,,,,

Seriously though, the above I think will be a major snag. The IPA violates a lot of European standards on data privacy and sharing. Even after we leave those standards are largely considered de rigeur on the international stage and significant divergence may well tarnish our reputation.

Besides, the current narrative seems to be post Brexit we'll all be very safe without all those immigrants coming in to bomb us.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Be very careful what you post here, they ARE listening,,,,,,

Seriously though, the above I think will be a major snag. The IPA violates a lot of European standards on data privacy and sharing. Even after we leave those standards are largely considered de rigeur on the international stage and significant divergence may well tarnish our reputation.

Besides, the current narrative seems to be post Brexit we'll all be very safe without all those immigrants coming in to bomb us.

Because only immigrants bomb people of course....

 

[Spot261]

Seemingly the words immigrant and terrorist are synonymous

 

[DEWLine]

In Canada, despite the cries of those amongst our people who would still have us believe otherwise, most of us still know better than to conflate the two terms.

How long we can go without being reverted yet again to an outvoted majority as in the Harper Years...?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

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[Timewalker]

In Canada, despite the cries of those amongst our people who would still have us believe otherwise, most of us still know better than to conflate the two terms.

How long we can go without being reverted yet again to an outvoted majority as in the Harper Years...?

Well, at least we no longer have Vic Toews ranting that anyone who objects to having their privacy invaded must automatically be a child molester, or someone who supports child molesters.

 

[DEWLine]

He's still a Harper-appointed judge in Manitoba. But we digress.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Well, at least we no longer have Vic Toews ranting that anyone who objects to having their privacy invaded must automatically be a child molester, or someone who supports child molesters.

That's the interesting thing. Every time these kind of laws get put up for proposal they bring out "Won't everyone think of the children?"

Isn't this a tactic Geobels employed?

 

[Leviathan]

Well then.

Methinks it's time to set up an anonymous server with a bunch of subtle clues it's owned by Alex Younger (Head of MI6)...and set it download the weirdest porn imaginable.