Slings and Arrows

[KRAD]

em.. I've got to be honest none of those seem that interesting to me - the answer to how La Forge switched from the visor to optical implants is "he went for an operation".

No, it isn't. We're talking the most paranoid time in Starfleet's history, and we're talking about a device (the VISOR) that has twice been used against the Federation ("The Mind's Eye" and Generations).

In other words, why are you assuming that La Forge chose to get rid of the VISOR?

 

[JWolf]

Therin of Andor said:

JWolf said:
I wish Slings and Arrows would just stay as an eBook series. I don't see anything wrong with reading it as eBooks.

If I had no other ST books to read, I get the eBooks and read 'em, but I'll still buy a nice chunky reprint omnibus anytime.

Regardless, you could be reading these stories as they come out instead of waiting for some trees to die for you.

 

[Therin of Andor]

JWolf said:I
Regardless, you could be reading these stories as they come out instead of waiting for some trees to die for you.

Sure. As I said, if I had no hardcopy stockpile of ST, I'd be reading the ebooks. I was impatient for "New Frontier: No Limits" (so I bought the eBook and read it immediately while awaiting the airfreight version to arrive in Sydney) and "SCE: Where Time Stands Still", because of its TAS links. I bought "The Magic of Tribbles" because it was to have no hardcopy version.

But I don't have time to read eBooks when so many hardcopies are on the pile, waiting to be shelved. No matter. If a hardcopy trade arrives first, I'll buy that and stick it on the pile.

I like dead trees. They can print "Slings and Arrows" on real slings and arrows if they like, so long as I get something to store on my shelf.

 

[Christopher]

The trees would've died anyway. Publishers don't make their own paper -- they buy paper that's already been made. And the paper mills use wood pulp from trees that have already been cut down (along with recycled material). If the wood weren't used for making paper, it would simply be used for something else.

 

[Elemental]

Well... that seems kind of like arguing to the vegetarian that the cow would have been killed anyway, whether they eat it or not.

 

[Tino]

With fewer people eating cow, fewer cows will be killed.
However, I still haven't bought my first eBook. ;-)

 

[Christopher]

Tino said:
With fewer people eating cow, fewer cows will be killed.

Not a fair analogy, because wood from felled trees is used for many, many things besides paper for books (like, ohh, building houses and furniture?). If everyone stopped eating beef, it would bring an end to the cattle industry. But if everyone stopped buying paper books, it would make only a small dent in the logging industry.

 

[HIj'Qa]

The Romans killed bovines for leather-making purposes. Eating the thing was only if you were poor destitute starving and there were no tress to chew on.

{factoid of day. Romans were more into swine}

 

[BrentMc]

Therin of Andor said:

JWolf said:I
Regardless, you could be reading these stories as they come out instead of waiting for some trees to die for you.

Sure. As I said, if I had no hardcopy stockpile of ST, I'd be reading the ebooks. I was impatient for "New Frontier: No Limits" (so I bought the eBook and read it immediately while awaiting the airfreight version to arrive in Sydney) and "SCE: Where Time Stands Still", because of its TAS links. I bought "The Magic of Tribbles" because it was to have no hardcopy version.

But I don't have time to read eBooks when so many hardcopies are on the pile, waiting to be shelved. No matter. If a hardcopy trade arrives first, I'll buy that and stick it on the pile.

I like dead trees. They can print "Slings and Arrows" on real slings and arrows if they like, so long as I get something to store on my shelf.

What is the Environmental impact of a computer running for hours as you read? (For those of us who don't have readers). Even a reader needs power. I think what Christopher is saying is that the paper comes from the parts of trees that are not used as lumber, making use of the waste. I am glad that we are thinking of the earth :-)
Some of these e-books sound good, but I don't have a reader, and I really like a book in my hands. most of my books are used, so that is "re-using" which is also go for mother earth.

 

[Christopher]

^^I don't know what parts of trees the paper comes from. The point is that paper production is just a small percentage of what trees are cut down for, and book publication is just a small percentage of what paper is used for. And paper also contains vegetable fibers such as cotton, linen, hemp, and rice, as well as synthetic fibers and recycled material.

 

[Tino]

Back to the topic ... I'd love to read Slings And Arrows someday. To me, the story ideas sound very nice and they seem to be filling a couple of missing pieces between those two movies.

Having said that, expressing my desire for more, what happened between all those other years between FC and NEM? We only know of the year leading to NEM. *lol*

 

[Technobuilder]

Regardless of when (or even if) "Slings & Arrows" is published as a Physical Book, I'm not going to start reading a series that has been announced with multiple parts when all the parts aren't out yet... if I can help it.

Mostly, this is because every time I've done it, I end up waiting for books to be released and I'd rather read continuously than wait. (as long as the wait isn't more than a few years.)

 

[William Leisner]

Tino said:
Having said that, expressing my desire for more, what happened between all those other years between FC and NEM? We only know of the year leading to NEM. *lol*

Well, Insurrection happened, too. (Though one can hardly blame you for repressing that knowledge.)

 

[BrentMc]

William Leisner said:

Tino said:
Having said that, expressing my desire for more, what happened between all those other years between FC and NEM? We only know of the year leading to NEM. *lol*

Well, Insurrection happened, too. (Though one can hardly blame you for repressing that knowledge.)

I'm the same way. I will not read a part one of a series until all the parts are out. Like the Kevin Ryan series Errand of Fury books. I have plenty of other books to read anyway. I am also waiting until all three parts of "of Gods and Men" is out before watching any of it.

 

[Geoff]

BrentMc said:
I'm the same way. I will not read a part one of a series until all the parts are out.

Yeah, I've been waiting to start reading Dune for 43 years and counting.

 

[KRAD]

Having said that, expressing my desire for more, what happened between all those other years between FC and NEM? We only know of the year leading to NEM. *lol*

Well, you can take a look at the following novels:

• ST: Avenger by William Shatner, with Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens
  NF: House of Cards by Peter David
  TNG: The Dominion War Book 1: Behind Enemy Lines by John Vornholt
  TNG: The Dominion War Book 3: Tunnel Through the Stars by John Vornholt
  TNG/X-Men: Planet X by Michael Jan Friedman
  TNG: Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang
  TNG: The Q-Continuum Book 1: Q-Space by Greg Cox
  TNG: The Q-Continuum Book 2: Q-Zone by Greg Cox
  TNG: The Q-Continuum Book 3: Q-Strike by Greg Cox
  ST: Spectre by William Shatner, with Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens
  ST: Dark Victory by William Shatner, with Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens
  TNG: The Battle of Betazed by Charlotte Douglas & Susan Kearney
  ST: Preserver by William Shatner, with Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens
  TNG: Double Helix Book 5: Double or Nothing by Peter David
  TNG: I, Q by John deLancie & Peter David
  TNG: Gemworld Book 1 by John Vornholt
  TNG: Gemworld Book 2 by John Vornholt
  TNG: Diplomatic Implausibility by Keith R.A. DeCandido
  TNG: Maximum Warp Book 1: Dead Zone by Dave Galanter & Greg Brodeur
  TNG: Maximum Warp Book 2: Forever Dark by Dave Galanter & Greg Brodeur
  DS9: Avatar Book 1 by S.D. Perry
  DS9: Avatar Book 2 by S.D. Perry
  TNG: Gateways Book 3: Doors Into Chaos by Robert Greenberger
  The Brave and the Bold Book 2 by Keith R.A. DeCandido
  NF: Stone and Anvil by Peter David
  TNG: The Genesis Wave Book 1 by John Vornholt
  TNG: The Genesis Wave Book 2 by John Vornholt
  TNG: The Genesis Wave Book 3 by John Vornholt
  TNG: Genesis Force by John Vornholt
  ST: Vulcan's Soul Book 2: Exiles by Josepha Sherman & Susan Shwartz
  ST: Vulcan's Soul Book 3: Epiphany by Josepha Sherman & Susan Shwartz
  TNG: A Hard Rain by Dean Wesley Smith
  VOY: Homecoming by Christie Golden
  VOY: The Farther Shore by Christie Golden
  ST: Captain's Peril by William Shatner, with Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens

And the following S.C.E/Corps of Engineers eBooks:

• The Belly of the Beast by Dean Wesley Smith
  Fatal Error by Keith R.A. DeCandido
  Hard Crash by Christie Golden
  The Art of the Deal by Glenn Greenberg
  The Future Begins by Steve Mollmann & Michael Schuster
  Remembrance of Things Past Book 1 by Terri Osborne
  Remembrance of Things Past Book 2 by Terri Osborne

And the following short stories:

• "Protecting Data's Friends" by Scott William Carter in ST: Strange New Worlds VI
  "Gods, Fate, and Fractals" by William Leisner in ST: Strange New Worlds II
  "What Dreams May Come" by Michael Jan Friedman in ST: Tales of the Dominion War
  "The First" by Peg Robinson in ST: Strange New Worlds
  "Reciprocity" by Brad Curry in ST: Strange New Worlds II
  "Bedside Matters" by Greg Cox in The Amazing Stories
  "The Soft Room" by Geoffrey Thorne in ST: Strange New Worlds VI
  "Suicide Note" by Geoff Trowbridge in TNG: The Sky's the Limit
  "Mirror Eyes" by Heather Jarman & Jeffrey Lang in ST: Tales of the Dominion War
  "Four Lights" by Keith R.A. DeCandido in TNG: The Sky's the Limit
  "Home Soil" by Jim Johnson in ST: Strange New Worlds 9
  "Eleven Hours Out" by Dave Galanter in ST: Tales of the Dominion War
  "Solace in Bloom" by Jeff D. Jacques in ST: Strange New Worlds 9
  "The Human Factor" by Russ Crossley in ST: Strange New Worlds VI
  "Bluff" by Steven Scott Ripley in ST: Strange New Worlds V
  "The Other Side" by Robert Greenberger in ST: Gateways Book 7: What Lay Beyond

All of the above are TNG stories, or at least involve members of the TNG cast, and take place between First Contact and A Time to Be Born.

Have fun!

 

[Tino]

Technobuilder said:
[...] I'm not going to start reading a series [...] when all the parts aren't out yet [...] Mostly, this is because every time I've done it, I end up waiting for books to be released and I'd rather read continuously than wait. (as long as the wait isn't more than a few years.)

I feel the same way. I wanted to buy the Alien Spotlight comics but there are still some issues to be released. When they are, I'll take two hours of my day and read all comics in a row. ;-)

KRAD said:
Well, you can take a look at the following novels:

[Long list]

Thanks for the list! There's been written a lot covering those years. I might have to dig into some of those stories. Good thing to have KRAD to point such things out - and I mean that in a positive way. :-)

 

[KRAD]

I feel the same way. I wanted to buy the Alien Spotlight comics but there are still some issues to be released. When they are, I'll take two hours of my day and read all comics in a row. ;-)

It should be pointed out that the Alien Spotlight comics are all standalone stories that aren't connected in the least, so there's really no need to wait.

Thanks for the list! There's been written a lot covering those years. I might have to dig into some of those stories. Good thing to have KRAD to point such things out - and I mean that in a positive way. :-)

Aw, shucks....

 

[Therin of Andor]

Tino said:
I wanted to buy the Alien Spotlight comics but there are still some issues to be released. When they are, I'll take two hours of my day and read all comics in a row. ;-)

You held off buying them until they'll all out? What if you can't find the early issues by then?

You may as well just buy the trade paperback collection; that will be out about a month after "Romulans". The separate issues don't really connect in any way, except that each issue focuses on a different ST race.

Gorn = pre-ST II

Vulcans = Pike era

Andorians = late TNG

Orions = Pike era (also lotsa Tellarites)

Borg = post-"Endgame" (VOY)

Romulans - pre "Balance of Terror (TOS).

You do know that there are more "Alien Spotlights" coming - as another set of issues - but just as unrelated to the first set? It may become an open ended series. What will you do then! eg. A Klingon one is supposedly coming from KRAD.

BTW, IIRC, "Romulans" will (very) loosely tie-in to DC Fontana's upcoming Romulan story, which also ties in (very loosely) with the "Assignment: Earth" mini-series.

 

[KRAD]

Orions = Pike era (also lotsa Tellarites)

Technically, this is TOS era. Pike has already been promoted to fleet captain, so it's somewhere between Kirk taking command of the Big E and "The Menagerie."

And yeah, there will be a second AS mini, and yes, I'm writing one. Futher, deponent sayeth not.