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Sleepy Hollow (Spoilers)

Just got done with this episode--nicely directed, produced and acted... but they are gonna have to be careful with too many cooks in the kitchen. The show is less ensemble than reliant on the two charismatic leads, and that's how it should stay, I think.

2 hour finale already? Wow.
 
Borgminister said:
Just got done with this episode--nicely directed, produced and acted... but they are gonna have to be careful with too many cooks in the kitchen. The show is less ensemble than reliant on the two charismatic leads, and that's how it should stay, I think.

2 hour finale already? Wow.
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It's a short-season series. Probably helps this show out a lot by constantly being on the move.

I think Supernatural would benefit greatly from a short season so that we wouldn't have all these stupid fillers or repeat the same Sam/Dean angst every single season.
 
Borgminister said:
Just got done with this episode--nicely directed, produced and acted... but they are gonna have to be careful with too many cooks in the kitchen. The show is less ensemble than reliant on the two charismatic leads, and that's how it should stay, I think.
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I don't agree. The two leads are certainly fantastic, but they've got a solid ensemble with some strong and appealing actors in it. The only one I find uninteresting is Morales.
 
Robbiesan said:
My comments were strictly based upon the initial episode not being compelling. I was curious if the show had gotten better since the first few episodes of many shows have weak writing as well as it taking time for the actors to feel comfortable in their roles. So far, I guess it's not going to be a show for anyone who's well read and a good critical thinker, only a show for mass appeal.

I'll pass.

The Renaissance comment made me laugh hysterically, but then most people have a poor sense of history.
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The man out of time stuff is really secondary to the whole Apocalypse storyline, so it's really not worth getting that worked up over.
 
Oh, the man-out-of-time stuff is awesome. Ichabod's scandalized and contemptuous reactions to modern society and our erroneous beliefs about his era are priceless, as are his awkward attempts to adapt to modern technology while still putting his own defiantly 18th-century spin on things. Best moments yet are the "Yolanda" scene and Ichabod's voice mail to Abby.
 
Yeah, there's definitely great stuff there. All I meant was that it's not the entire focus of the show, so if you like the other stuff better you can just focus on that and not the man out of time stuff.
 
Oh, the man-out-of-time stuff is awesome.
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I love these two, and NOT in a shippy way.

Ichabod: (After unsuccessfully trying to sit in his new clothes) One sign of the impending apocalypse is surely "skinny jeans". :guffaw:

and later in the same scene...

Abbie: If you are going to keep wearing that damn thing, I have 2 words for you. Dry cleaning.

Ichabod: (Looks confused then looks away) Pick two words I understand. :p
 
I also enjoy the man-out-of-time aspect. I loved watching him try to use a lap top. He put his hands up in an "I surrender" gesture and said something to the effect of "lieutenant, I've done something catastrophic..." :D

I love the characters, I love the interaction, I love that the cast is becoming an ensemble. This show is just a whole lot of fun!
 
Someone put forward Tom Mison's name as someone they would like to see play Dr. Strange in the Doctor Strange movie. I totally concur with this sediment, I think he could rock the part.
 
Shanndee said:
I also enjoy the man-out-of-time aspect. I loved watching him try to use a lap top. He put his hands up in an "I surrender" gesture and said something to the effect of "lieutenant, I've done something catastrophic..." :D
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I'm enjoying the man-out-of-time aspect quite a bit too, but I hope they take a page out of Futurama's book and phase it out before too long. If we're in the middle of season 5 and the writers are still making jokes about Ichabod not understanding us wacky 21st century Americans I'll be annoyed.
 
I don't know. Plop any of us 20+ years into the future and, while we might be able to sufficiently adapt to be able to handle day-to-day stuff, I'm guessing that even after a few years there'd still be stuff that would surprise us. And we're a group that thinks a lot about the future and how tech evolves. For someone like Ichabod, it would be even more true.
 
I'm frankly surprised he doesn't scream in terror at video, and already has the remote control figured out. There wasn't even photography before he got froze. I think, if anything, he's adapted too fast! But then, his adaptation isn't the point of the show, and it wouldn't pay to get bogged down in it.
 
Forbin said:
I'm frankly surprised he doesn't scream in terror at video, and already has the remote control figured out. There wasn't even photography before he got froze. I think, if anything, he's adapted too fast!
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I think that's giving him too little credit. He's from the past, sure, but he's an Enlightenment-era scholar, a man of intellect and keen perception who lived in a time when the technology around him was making significant strides forward -- largely through the efforts of Benjamin Franklin, whom Crane knew personally. So encountering technology beyond the state of the art of his day would not fill him with superstitious terror. At the very least, he'd understand the principle of electricity and its potential as a source of energy (even if it was used mainly for parlor tricks in his day).
 
That's a good point about electricity, I hadn't thought of that.
But other than that, what was technology back then? Printing presses and firearms.
But don't get me wrong, I'm loving every minute. The show has it's tongue juuust far enough in its cheek to make it all enjoyable.
 
The point is, an educated and open mind can adapt to new circumstances. And people in general are better at adapting to technological advance than you'd think. There are towns in rural India, say, where the children had grown up without ever knowing electricity or indoor plumbing, but then charities brought in laptops and satellite phones and such, and the kids became skilled users of the technology quite quickly.
 
I tremble for the day he discovers internet porn...

That said, the man-out-of-time aspect is wonderful to watch and given that much time has not passed yet in the show (a few weeks now? A couple months? They mention that it was the new year), it could be a fun trope for some time yet. Still, wandering around modern day Sleepy Hollow suggests that there's a ton of stuff that DID exist in his time that is still fundamentally the same, albeit with a different approach.

Did they HAVE girly magazines in the 18th century?

Mark
 
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