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Sleepy Hollow (Spoilers)

And, of course, Star Trek takes place in a future where there was no Star Trek TV series revolutionizing mass-media science fiction in the 1960s. I sometimes wonder what the Trek-universe media landscape in the 20th century would've been. Without the precedent of ST's success in syndication, George Lucas might not have been able to convince investors that the space adventure movie he wanted to make in the mid-'70s could turn a profit. And without TNG's success, would the first-run syndicated SF/fantasy boom of the '90s ever have happened?

Maybe that's why the only 20th-century sci-fi we've ever heard about in the Trek universe is the '40s Captain Proton serials...
 
Interesting pilot. I'll keep watching.

I wonder how often the Horseman will appear. Probably only four times a season or so, I'm guessing...
 
I really enjoyed the pilot. I like the cast, the supernatural mythology is interesting, and it seems like it should have a fair amount of humor, which is something I like.
I'm curious what kind of a role Katrina will have, because she was listed in the main cast.
I'm wondering if she's going to just pop up in visions and flashbacks like here, or if they will eventually bring her out of whatever limbo she's in into the modern world. Didn't she make a reference to needing to be rescued?
 
^Clancy Brown was listed in the main cast too, which is why I think he'll have a regular vocal presence at the very least. Then again, some shows these days change their "main cast" credits week to week depending on who's featured or not.
 
Greg Cox said:
Or the way that the THE WALKING DEAD takes place in a world where the "zombie apocalypse" is not part of pop culture . . . and nobody uses the word "zombie." Perhaps that universe's George Romero made romantic comedies instead?
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Do cheese zombies exist in the world of The Walking Dead though? :p

Christopher said:
^Clancy Brown was listed in the main cast too, which is why I think he'll have a regular vocal presence at the very least. Then again, some shows these days change their "main cast" credits week to week depending on who's featured or not.
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Brown wasn't in the main cast. He got the "and" credit during the guest star listings.

Guest star John Cho, Nestor Serrano and Clancy Brown, to be exact.
 
I just double-checked via On Demand, and Aragorn and DigificWriter are correct.

Starring Tom Mison
Nicole Beharie
Orlando Jones
Katia Winter
Guest Star John Cho
Nestor Serrano
and Clancy Brown
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So I got confused.
 
The creators have openly for months said that the fairy tale is not know
N in the TV show. I don't get the problem.
 
^It's not a "problem," it's a topic to discuss and speculate about. This being a discussion board, there would only be a problem if we didn't have a topic to discuss.
 
According to an interview with co-creator Philip Iscove, we possibly haven't seen the last of John Cho's character despite what happens to him in the closing moments of the pilot.

AX: Is John Cho’s character coming back?
ISCOVE: I don’t want to say a hundred percent, but yes, I believe that he’s coming back.
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Am I the only one who jumped when the demon in the mirror broke the mirror? I thought the spliced shots were well done.

Wasn't fond of the Horseman's use of a gun. I don't know, just damaged that to me. And why didn't Crane grab the Horseman's axe and whack at him with it?
 
propita said:
Wasn't fond of the Horseman's use of a gun. I don't know, just damaged that to me.
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Oh, come on. :) That was one of the best parts of the episode and its absurdly awesome premise and concept. As said by Wired,
If I had to point to the exact moment that I knew Sleepy Hollow was going to be my favorite new show of the year, I’m pretty sure it would be the scene where the Headless Horseman whipped out an assault rifle and tried to gun down Ichabod Crane in slow motion.
That’s the great thing about the pilot for the show, which premiered on FOX last night: It’s well aware that its premise — taking that 1820 Washington Irving story about the folly of superstition and wrenching it into the modern day for a mismatched buddy cop serial about secret covens dueling over the apocalypse through a series of X-Files-esque unsolved mysteries — is ridiculous to the point of being laughable. Structurally, the whole first episode is an exercise in stacking one handy plot contrivance on top of another until they’ve built a foundation for the series that almost majestic in its fragility, held together purely by the Scotch tape of the cast’s likability, and how fun its ideas are
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The Headless Horseman wielding an assault rifle is freaking brilliant.
 
Christopher said:
And, of course, Star Trek takes place in a future where there was no Star Trek TV series revolutionizing mass-media science fiction in the 1960s. I sometimes wonder what the Trek-universe media landscape in the 20th century would've been. Without the precedent of ST's success in syndication, George Lucas might not have been able to convince investors that the space adventure movie he wanted to make in the mid-'70s could turn a profit. And without TNG's success, would the first-run syndicated SF/fantasy boom of the '90s ever have happened?

Maybe that's why the only 20th-century sci-fi we've ever heard about in the Trek universe is the '40s Captain Proton serials...
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No, you have Alan Ladd to thank for Star Wars not Star Trek, he was the only one who believed in Lucas not the script nor the concept.
 
Christopher said:
And, of course, Star Trek takes place in a future where there was no Star Trek TV series revolutionizing mass-media science fiction in the 1960s. I sometimes wonder what the Trek-universe media landscape in the 20th century would've been. Without the precedent of ST's success in syndication, George Lucas might not have been able to convince investors that the space adventure movie he wanted to make in the mid-'70s could turn a profit. And without TNG's success, would the first-run syndicated SF/fantasy boom of the '90s ever have happened?

Maybe that's why the only 20th-century sci-fi we've ever heard about in the Trek universe is the '40s Captain Proton serials...
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I like to think the 'show' Galaxy Quest was the inspiration for Lucas and the sci-fi revolution.
 
Vendikarr said:
I like to think the 'show' Galaxy Quest was the inspiration for Lucas and the sci-fi revolution.
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Doesn't work. According to the film's backstory, Galaxy Quest ran from 1979-1982. It probably took several years to accumulate enduring popularity in syndication, like Trek did.

However, according to the GQ Wiki, the show was made using sets and props left over from an earlier space movie as a money-saving move. So one has to wonder what that earlier movie was. I wonder if that's a nod toward the (inaccurate) perception that Battlestar Galactica -- which debuted in 1978 -- was just a copy of Star Wars. Maybe that earlier movie was what took the place of SW in the GQ universe. But then, what inspired that movie?
 
The wife and I caught this on the PVR and watched it last night. We were very surprised that Clancy Brown's character got 'whacked' so early on. Both of us are big fans of his so we are hoping Christopher's thoughts above are correct. We were also surprised to see the the Reverend's quick death as well. The pacing appears so quick here. I would not have guessed that they would have uncovered the head of the headless horseman so quickly. We're both looking forward to see how this progresses.
 
As soon as I say Clancy Brown I knew he'd be dead. Pilots have that way of having an actor you know and killing them off, but he died even sooner than I thought.
 
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