Skydance Productions, Bryan Singer and the new Trek series...

[C.E. Evans]

"Exploring space" is often just the excuse TOS and TNG used for their respective ships to be wandering around out there in the first place. Both the Enterprise and the Enterprise-D were really used as multipurpose vessels by the writers of both shows so a wide variety of stories could be told, regardless if it was in uncharted space or somewhere close to home.

 

[Mudd]

I bother with very few shows that can't produce a satisfying story within a single episode. Who has the free time to watch a TV show week after week in order to get anything worthwhile out of it?

Also I've noticed that with few exceptions the day after one of these arc-heavy shows airs its finale the Internet is ablaze with disillusioned fans calling for the producers' blood because their expectations were dashed.

 

[Amasov]

One thing is for sure, any new Star Trek series has no place on CBS; CEO Les Moonves is far more content with airing terrible, unfunny sitcoms and police procedural after police procedural that somehow manage to bring in high ratings.

I've been hoping that if Marvel is able to have some success with their upcoming Netflix series, it might - MIGHT get CBS to consider bringing a new Star Trek there. It really amazes me that with the recent trend of comic book-turned TV series as well as successful cable sci-fi shows that Star Trek is not developed as a TV presence again.

Read this article:

http://io9.com/how-to-turn-star-trek-into-the-next-marvel-movie-univer-1643498264

 

[C.E. Evans]

One thing is for sure, any new Star Trek series has no place on CBS; CEO Les Moonves is far more content with airing terrible, unfunny sitcoms and police procedural after police procedural that somehow manage to bring in high ratings.

That's because Les Moonves knows how to run a successful television network.

I've been hoping that if Marvel is able to have some success with their upcoming Netflix series, it might - MIGHT get CBS to consider bringing a new Star Trek there. It really amazes me that with the recent trend of comic book-turned TV series as well as successful cable sci-fi shows that Star Trek is not developed as a TV presence again.

Not really. Space opera has always been far more expensive, more troublesome to produce, and (more importantly) more small-audience than other type of TV shows. That was true even in Roddenberry's day (he actually had a very tough time originally selling TOS and was only able to do so because Lucille Ball took a chance and was willing to go into the red with it).

Even TNG was initially thought to be a big gamble, but the thing Paramount had back then that CBS currently doesn't was a need for another Trek show to sell in syndication (CBS is currently sitting on five Trek shows, six if you include TAS).

If Trek could deliver the kind of consistently high TV ratings those sitcoms and police procedurals can, Moonves would have signed off on a new Trek after ENT concluded its successful seven season run...

 

[Amaris]

One thing is for sure, any new Star Trek series has no place on CBS; CEO Les Moonves is far more content with airing terrible, unfunny sitcoms and police procedural after police procedural that somehow manage to bring in high ratings.

That's because Les Moonves knows how to run a successful television network.

I've been hoping that if Marvel is able to have some success with their upcoming Netflix series, it might - MIGHT get CBS to consider bringing a new Star Trek there. It really amazes me that with the recent trend of comic book-turned TV series as well as successful cable sci-fi shows that Star Trek is not developed as a TV presence again.

Not really. Space opera has always been far more expensive, more troublesome to produce, and (more importantly) more small-audience than other type of TV shows. That was true even in Roddenberry's day (he actually had a very tough time originally selling TOS and was only able to do so because Lucille Ball took a chance and was willing to go into the red with it).

Even TNG was initially thought to be a big gamble, but the thing Paramount had back then that CBS currently doesn't was a need for another Trek show to sell in syndication (CBS is currently sitting on five Trek shows, six if you include TAS).

If Trek could deliver the kind of consistently high TV ratings those sitcoms and police procedurals can, Moonves would have signed off on a new Trek after ENT concluded its successful seven season run...

All of this, and I'd also like to add that right now they're making piles of money off of the various DVD sets (HD and original). There's no need for them to invest significant amounts of cash into a new venture based on that franchise.

Or, to put it another way, it's paid off, and still bringing in money. They'd be stupid to rock that boat.

 

[chardman]

Another one saying Kirk, Spock and McCoy will be returning. If so, I doubt it will be with the NuTrek cast.

http://en.yibada.com/articles/22811...-tv-series-close-getting-green-light-kirk.htm

I don't see why not, and can't understand why people keep saying it. Damn near the whole cast is already either actively involved in, or pursuing, regular series television work. Apparently, the fact that so many of the leads are already doing television shows, proves they haven't priced themselves out of the market, nor think themselves above the medium.

Off the top of my head...

Pine plays a regular role in the upcoming summer sit-com "Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp".

Quinto currently is a regular in the series (The Slap).

Urban had his own series (Almost Human) less than a year ago, and is actively shopping for a new one.

Cho played a semi-regular role on "Sleep Hollow" and was a series regular on "Selfie", (both within the last year) and from what I've heard, currently has a development deal at FX.

Pegg is supposedly developing a new series of "Spaced" for the BBC.

 

[MarsWeeps]

Another one saying Kirk, Spock and McCoy will be returning. If so, I doubt it will be with the NuTrek cast.

http://en.yibada.com/articles/22811...-tv-series-close-getting-green-light-kirk.htm

I don't see why not, and can't understand why people keep saying it. Damn near the whole cast is already either actively involved in, or pursuing, regular series television work. Apparently, the fact that so many of the leads are already doing television shows, proves they haven't priced themselves out of the market, nor think themselves above the medium.

Still, it would be cheaper to hire unknowns or lesser-knowns to fill the roles, especially if the series lasts 5+ years. Also, I would want to see a new ship or at the very least a new bridge. The electric bill just to light the bridge used in the movies would kill the budget.

Or...they could just completely ignore the NuTrek movies and re-boot it for TV. I would love to see a modern version of TOS Enterprise and bridge. The pilot episode could be Kirk taking over the Enterprise from Pike. More on Kirk's previous ship(s) and possibly Kirk's family (parents) could be explored.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I'd like to see a TV reboot.

 

[chardman]

Still, it would be cheaper to hire unknowns or lesser-knowns to fill the role

Cheaper? Sure. More profitable in the long run? Not necessarily. Seems to me using the more expensive movie cast would draw bigger audience shares than a bunch of relative unknowns. Bigger audiences = better rating = more advertising revenue, bigger profits, and usually, bigger budgets in future seasons.

I would love to see a modern version of TOS Enterprise and bridge.

Me too.But it would be just plain idiotic to go to the expense of building all new sets from scratch, rather than simply reusing the nuTrek sets when the film crew is done with them. That alone would likely represent a savings of tens of millions of dollars.

 

[AviTrek]

Still, it would be cheaper to hire unknowns or lesser-knowns to fill the role

Cheaper? Sure. More profitable in the long run? Not necessarily. Seems to me using the more expensive movie cast would draw bigger audience shares than a bunch of relative unknowns. Bigger audiences = better rating = more advertising revenue, bigger profits, and usually, bigger budgets in future seasons.

I would love to see a modern version of TOS Enterprise and bridge.

Me too.But it would be just plain idiotic to go to the expense of building all new sets from scratch, rather than simply reusing the nuTrek sets when the film crew is done with them. That alone would likely represent a savings of tens of millions of dollars.

All depends on the licensing agreement between CBS and Paramount. What of the nuTrek IP does Paramount own vs what does CBS own? CBS can create a new show with new sets, new actors, and new IP and pay Paramount nothing. If CBS decides to use material from nuTrek then Paramount and/or Bad Robot is probably owed some kind of royalty check. Depending on that cost, it may be cheaper to jettison nuTrek and not have to pay a cut of every episode to someone else

 

[Mudd]

It's not so much a matter of who owns what so much as the cost of rental versus storage versus construction. If the nuTrek sets are being rebuilt in Vancouver, how long do you think Paramount will pay to store the unused structural elements in California?

I'd be happy to see them build TOS Enterprise sets out of the elements of the Kelvin bridge.

 

[spinnerlys]

Pegg is supposedly developing a new series of "Spaced" for the BBC.

What? Got a source?

 

[chardman]

Pegg is supposedly developing a new series of "Spaced" for the BBC.

What? Got a source?

Sorry, but no. I've searched, but can't find the link, but it was something fairly recent, featuring both Pegg and Wright, doing their schtick about how, after years of swearing they'd never do a 3rd series of "Spaced", that they'd now have to bill the new series as "Series 4" so as to not make liars of themselves.

 

[Tom]

Still, it would be cheaper to hire unknowns or lesser-knowns to fill the role

Cheaper? Sure. More profitable in the long run? Not necessarily. Seems to me using the more expensive movie cast would draw bigger audience shares than a bunch of relative unknowns. Bigger audiences = better rating = more advertising revenue, bigger profits, and usually, bigger budgets in future seasons.

I would love to see a modern version of TOS Enterprise and bridge.

Me too.But it would be just plain idiotic to go to the expense of building all new sets from scratch, rather than simply reusing the nuTrek sets when the film crew is done with them. That alone would likely represent a savings of tens of millions of dollars.

All depends on the licensing agreement between CBS and Paramount. What of the nuTrek IP does Paramount own vs what does CBS own? CBS can create a new show with new sets, new actors, and new IP and pay Paramount nothing. If CBS decides to use material from nuTrek then Paramount and/or Bad Robot is probably owed some kind of royalty check. Depending on that cost, it may be cheaper to jettison nuTrek and not have to pay a cut of every episode to someone else

Correct. Also there is also new trend of bring back old series (like the X-files) with one of the reasons being to build sales on the old show catalog. Now, new fans will get interested in the X-Files (for instance) and may want to watch the old episodes. This will bring up the market value of the old series and services like Netflix, Amazon etc. would pay more for them.

So if you apply this logic to Star Trek, the old series are depreciating rapidly, you can only go to the well so many times. The Hd conversions did help a little with TNG and TOS, but it's still a declining product. A new series built on the TV (prime universe) continuity would help bolster sales of the old series as new fans would want to see what came before. CBS could just order a limited amount (6 to12) of episodes and it would still help.

 

[I am not Spock]

A new generation of fans may go and buy the DVDs of the other series, if a new Trek show is successful. It worked with the Abrams movies.

However, Singer has proposed Star Trek and Twilight Zone series to CBS before. I won't buy it til I hear something official

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Pegg is supposedly developing a new series of "Spaced" for the BBC.

What? Got a source?

Sorry, but no. I've searched, but can't find the link, but it was something fairly recent, featuring both Pegg and Wright, doing their schtick about how, after years of swearing they'd never do a 3rd series of "Spaced", that they'd now have to bill the new series as "Series 4" so as to not make liars of themselves.

That would be so fricking awesome!!!!!

Love Spaced. If anyone hasn't not seen it, you must hunt it down. Hunt it down and watch the crap out of it!!!!!!!!

 

[spinnerlys]

The "Spaced" comment might come from here: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...g-toys-with-fans-teases-the-return-of-spaced/

Hmm.

 

[chardman]

Nah. I'm sure it was more recent than that. I think it was when Pegg and Wright attended the Python tour tour at the end of last year, after the show. I remember Pegg talking about the role he was playing in Terry Jones' new movie "Absolutely Anything". Then someone asked he and Wright what they had planned, and they hinted about the next Cornetto Trilogy, and then the bit about "Spaced". Might of been pie in the sky, or having one on the interviewer, but is sounded legit to me.