Skipping The Worlds of DS9 and Spirit Walk
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That's okay. I'm open to the idea of a useless character being rehabilitated in the novels. It worked for Troi in the Titan books. Also, I really enjoyed the Chakotay-centric Battle Lines.
Spirit Walk just sounded really horrible. All that spirit guide stuff *really* isn't for me.
Spirit Walk just sounded really horrible. All that spirit guide stuff *really* isn't for me.
Oh don't get me wrong; Spirit Walk sucked. That's not what I'm talking about 
Beyer just really did an amazing job at crafting a narrative that finally brought out the character-arc potential inherent in the relationships set up by the show, as well as Janeway's death and the Borg invasion, etc. Honestly, even with Vanguard and DTI and Indistinguishable From Magic and all the rest, her next Voyager book might be the one I'm looking forward to the most next year.
Beyer just really did an amazing job at crafting a narrative that finally brought out the character-arc potential inherent in the relationships set up by the show, as well as Janeway's death and the Borg invasion, etc. Honestly, even with Vanguard and DTI and Indistinguishable From Magic and all the rest, her next Voyager book might be the one I'm looking forward to the most next year.
I read Spirit Walk for the sole reason that my local library had the two books. I wouldn't actually buy them. You'll be fine without reading them, but if your library has them and you have some free time, you can try them.
I've never personally understood the ambivelance and dislike that Chakotay's character seems to engender amongst the ST fandom; then again, I also happen to hold Voyager as a whole in higher esteem than a lot of the fandom, so I guess that just proves the old saying 'to each their own'.
BTW, I'm on Chapter 10 of Full Circle right now, and am really enjoying the story thus far, although I do find myself wishing I had been able to read about certain things which obviously occurred within the Spirit Walk duology firsthand.
BTW, I'm on Chapter 10 of Full Circle right now, and am really enjoying the story thus far, although I do find myself wishing I had been able to read about certain things which obviously occurred within the Spirit Walk duology firsthand.
If you're confused about anything, just check out the Memory Beta pages for the characters who experiences you want to know about. That certainly helped me alot.
^ It's more curiosity than confusion that has me wishing I could've read Spirit Walk before diving into Full Circle.
Speaking of FC, I'm really enjoying the book, but my personal favorite aspect right now is the Klingon stuff; not only is it great to see the Kahless clone and Worf again, it's also a nice change of pace narratively to see the Voyager crew - past and present - dealing with stuff relating to the Empire, since that's an aspect of ST mythos and lore that the series never really had much opportunity to deal with during its 7-year on-air run.
Speaking of FC, I'm really enjoying the book, but my personal favorite aspect right now is the Klingon stuff; not only is it great to see the Kahless clone and Worf again, it's also a nice change of pace narratively to see the Voyager crew - past and present - dealing with stuff relating to the Empire, since that's an aspect of ST mythos and lore that the series never really had much opportunity to deal with during its 7-year on-air run.
^Well, the Klingon stuff is a major part of the arc of Christie Golden's four post-finale novels, including Spirit Walk. So you might enjoy SW for those aspects. (Personally I've never understood why it's so reviled by some people.)
^From what I gather a lot of it seems to do with Christie's emotional and rather "touchy-feely" style of writing. Which I always get a chuckle out of because I liked the 4 books (not the greatest stuff mind you, but good enough) and I say this because I've been accused in real life, multiple times, of being too much like Vulcans and not caring/emotional enough.
Well, I've often felt that the modern Trek shows often weren't emotional enough. TOS was a show full of emotion and passion, but its successors were often fairly sedate by contrast (except for DS9). So a more emotional approach to VGR in the novels never bothered me.
^ What I like most about FC thus far is that it manages to take the broader storytelling narrative used by TNG and DS9 - especially DS9 - and effortlessly merge it with Voyager's much more intimate narrative storytelling style; seeing the Voyager characters deal with issues that have a much more far-reaching effect is neat, mainly because, as I said, it really isn't something that we had a whole lot of opportunity to see during the course of the series' 7-year run, or even within the course of the events of Homecoming and The Farther Shore.
kkozoriz1
Fleet Captain
I haven't been reading Voyager for two reasons:
1) Spirit Walk was one of the most annoying, boring Trek lit books I've read.
2) The whole "Let's stuff Janeway in the refrigerator" debacle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_refrigerators
1) Spirit Walk was one of the most annoying, boring Trek lit books I've read.
2) The whole "Let's stuff Janeway in the refrigerator" debacle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_refrigerators
^ Full Circle isn't even in the same league as Spirit Walk, in terms of quality, and wraps up all the storylines from that duo really fast, to move on to better things.
And it adds a lot more depth to Janeway's decisions around Before Dishonor that make her death a little more palatable; even some huge Before Dishonor haters have said so. Full Circle was probably the best reviewed book of the year, last year.
But since this is the second time I've had this response to a post of yours, do you mind if I ask - how are you going with Losing The Peace?
And it adds a lot more depth to Janeway's decisions around Before Dishonor that make her death a little more palatable; even some huge Before Dishonor haters have said so. Full Circle was probably the best reviewed book of the year, last year.
But since this is the second time I've had this response to a post of yours, do you mind if I ask - how are you going with Losing The Peace?
kkozoriz1
Fleet Captain
I just finished it. It was well written and I can see where people say it's optimistic. The first half a dozen chapters or so were really tough to get through. I understand that we had to see where everyone was in order to see them on their journey but it was really depressing. Once things started moving though, it got better. Still a downer. Not that I expected a story set in a refugee camp to be a laugh riot of course. Things were looking up at the end but still quite somber.
One thing that initially bugged me actually came out quite well at the end. The Enterprise's running from here to there seemed somewhat pointless. (Was there really no other ships closer to Alpha Centauri for police duty?) but once I saw it as a reflection of Picard's wandering and looking for purpose I forgave it <grin>.
We did have a rather spirited discussion about a point of medical ethics here:http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=128040.
All in all a solid B. I'll be looking forward to more from Mr. Leisner.
One thing that initially bugged me actually came out quite well at the end. The Enterprise's running from here to there seemed somewhat pointless. (Was there really no other ships closer to Alpha Centauri for police duty?) but once I saw it as a reflection of Picard's wandering and looking for purpose I forgave it <grin>.
We did have a rather spirited discussion about a point of medical ethics here:http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=128040.
All in all a solid B. I'll be looking forward to more from Mr. Leisner.
Back to Spirit Walk for a sec: sure, emotion is an important part of living. But there's almost a distrust of any kind of rational thought in those books; the only valid response to any situation is an emotional one... which helps explain why Seven and Tuvok are given so little to do in Golden's four Voyager relaunch novels.
Spirit Walk felt, to me, anyway, like the equivalent of inhaling patchouli and meditating about my chakras while Yanni's playing in the background. And then hanging out with a bunch of people to have a really good cry and a group hug with my very bestest friends forever. Not my thing.
Spirit Walk felt, to me, anyway, like the equivalent of inhaling patchouli and meditating about my chakras while Yanni's playing in the background. And then hanging out with a bunch of people to have a really good cry and a group hug with my very bestest friends forever. Not my thing.
Read Worlds of Deep Space Nine! I know others have said it, but, y'know, read `em! Unless you're like, suffering from a terminal illness and only have a year to cram in as much Trek Lit as you can, why rush ahead? Savour the Trek books available to you! Read Worlds of DS9!
Well, I pride myself on rational thought, and I didn't feel that the books were hostile to my point of view.
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