Sisko in DS9 Relaunch/TNG Relaunch Future works

[Brendan Moody]

If Marco/Olivia Woods wants there to be a mirror Vaughn in 2377, there'll be one; they can always come up with an explanation of why a lowly human was allowed access to great medical care. It's not like plausibility of MU counterparts has ever been a great priority for Trek.

 

[ATimson]

If Marco/Olivia Woods wants there to be a mirror Vaughn in 2377, there'll be one; they can always come up with an explanation of why a lowly human was allowed access to great medical care. It's not like plausibility of MU counterparts has ever been a great priority for Trek.

See also: Vic Fontaine.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Is there a Mirror Vaughn?

Marco and I had a conversation at Shore Leave many years ago, probably 2001 or 2002. He related to me that Heather Jarman described Vaughn as Gandalf. That was her vision of the character in writing This Gray Spirit. "If Vaughn is Gandalf," I said, "then Mirror-Vaughn would be Saruman." Marco didn't dismiss the idea out of hand.

Thus, I've had a very specific vision of Mirror-Vaughn. He would have some sort of impregnable fortress planet, the skies choked with soot and black clouds, like a steampunk Apokalips. He sits alone, in his tower, a chessboard spread out in front of him, and he moves the pieces, pulls the strings. He is the secret power in the galaxy, working with the Alliance when it's in his interests, but when the time comes, he'll seize power on his own terms.

That's my vision.

Doubtless it's wrong. He's probably a celebrity.

 

[JD]

^ I would love to see that myself.
I'm thinking Vaughn in the MU might be some kind of an Alliance operative or something. If he's high enough in the power structure it would definitely explain why he would still be alive. That or he could be some kind of cyborg or something.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Interesting that we can all talk here about what mirror Vaughn would be like. I thought 'story ideas' were forbidden?

 

[David Henderson]

Interesting that we can all talk here about what mirror Vaughn would be like. I thought 'story ideas' were forbidden?

To me, most of these appear to be characterizations more than story ideas. "He'll sieze power" isn't a story idea; "He'll sieze power by doing X, Y, and Z" is a story idea.

davidh

 

[Christopher]

David's right. A story idea isn't just asking "what if a character were like this." A story idea is a proposed answer to that question, describing a specific set of events that would result. ("Kirk goes back in time" isn't a story; "Kirk goes back in time, falls in love, and must let her die to preserve history" is a story.)

 

[foravalon]

Is there a Mirror Vaughn?

Marco and I had a conversation at Shore Leave many years ago, probably 2001 or 2002. He related to me that Heather Jarman described Vaughn as Gandalf. That was her vision of the character in writing This Gray Spirit. "If Vaughn is Gandalf," I said, "then Mirror-Vaughn would be Saruman." Marco didn't dismiss the idea out of hand.

Thus, I've had a very specific vision of Mirror-Vaughn. He would have some sort of impregnable fortress planet, the skies choked with soot and black clouds, like a steampunk Apokalips. He sits alone, in his tower, a chessboard spread out in front of him, and he moves the pieces, pulls the strings. He is the secret power in the galaxy, working with the Alliance when it's in his interests, but when the time comes, he'll seize power on his own terms.

That's my vision.

Doubtless it's wrong. He's probably a celebrity.

Sounds kinda like a dark version of Requiem for Methuselah, I like.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Is there a Mirror Vaughn?

Marco and I had a conversation at Shore Leave many years ago, probably 2001 or 2002. He related to me that Heather Jarman described Vaughn as Gandalf. That was her vision of the character in writing This Gray Spirit. "If Vaughn is Gandalf," I said, "then Mirror-Vaughn would be Saruman." Marco didn't dismiss the idea out of hand.

Thus, I've had a very specific vision of Mirror-Vaughn. He would have some sort of impregnable fortress planet, the skies choked with soot and black clouds, like a steampunk Apokalips. He sits alone, in his tower, a chessboard spread out in front of him, and he moves the pieces, pulls the strings. He is the secret power in the galaxy, working with the Alliance when it's in his interests, but when the time comes, he'll seize power on his own terms.

That's my vision.

Doubtless it's wrong. He's probably a celebrity.

Me likey very muchly!

ETA: I just thought of something-- if mirror Vaughn, like the primary Vaughn, is from Berengaria, then his castle could be guarded by fire breathing dragons.

 

[Brynthe2]

To me, it seems; the writers and the people behind the DS9 relaunch havent quite figured out how to fit sisko into the scheme of things. He was gone for a while and everyone else sort of moved on from when he was gone. He was the main character for those 7 years, and now it has gone way beyond what the creators of the show did...perhaps sisko isnt meant to be a headliner after all. although he was in Hollow Men

Personally, I'd like to nominate Sisko as the next Kai, but that's just my personal opinion, and not one that I believe to be likely.

 

[JD]

Yeah, but he's the Emissary, which would probably be even higher up in the Bajoran religion than the Kai. So by doing that they would probably being lessening his importance.

 

[tenmei]

I'd actually prefer to have Sisko end up just living the good life on Bajor on his farm with Kassidy and the baby.

 

[LightningStorm]

Yeah, but he's the Emissary, which would probably be even higher up in the Bajoran religion than the Kai. So by doing that they would probably being lessening his importance.

That and the Kai is usually a devout believer in the religion. Sisko isn't.

 

[Brynthe2]

Yeah, but he's the Emissary, which would probably be even higher up in the Bajoran religion than the Kai. So by doing that they would probably being lessening his importance.

That and the Kai is usually a devout believer in the religion. Sisko isn't.

I'd agree that initially he wasn't, but over the course of the series and after his time with the Prophets, I'd say he probably has a much greater respect for their religion.

I mean, this is the same guy who was willing to risk death so that he could continue to receive the visions that the prophets were sending to him, despite the protests of his son and the woman he later married. That sounds like dedication to me.

 

[Trent Roman]

^ Sisko knows, and trusts, the Prophets (he can't very well believe in them, since he met them several times, and is, after a fashion, born of one). That doesn't mean he subscribes to the idea that they are gods (and he, by ancestry, is a demi-god), or in the afterlife that the Bajoran religion postulates. His attitude, even in the books, is closer to the Eav'oq, and the Olahu sect, than mainstream Bajoran faith like Kira embraces.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[David Henderson]

... the idea that they are gods (and he, by ancestry, is a demi-god), ...

By ancestry, he is 100% Human, just "divinely inspired" (to use the Bajoran frame of reference), as Sarah was not herself a Prophet, merely controlled/possessed by one for some period of time. When the Prophet left her or stopped controlling her, she found herself married to someone she didn't love and the mother of a child she didn't know, and she left.

davidh

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Sounds kinda like a dark version of Requiem for Methuselah, I like.

God only knows what a Mirror *Flint* would be like...

 

[Christopher]

God only knows what a Mirror *Flint* would be like...

Vandal Savage?

 

[Therin of Andor]

Is there a Mirror Vaughn?

Vaughn sees him every morning when trimming his beard, but so far he has remained elusive.

(Actually, maybe Mirror Vaughn has no beard?)