Simpsons might be cancelled by Fox
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What evidence? Any actor can be replaced if they have to be, but that doesn't mean it is a good decision to replace them. Your low opinion of Shearer's contributions to the show has no relation to the opinions of the people who actually make the decisions on the show, who quite clearly hold his contributions in high value and would rather do the show with him than without him.
Justin
Obviously not. There are some shows where actors were replaced/written out and the show then failed. Other shows have seen actors replaced and kept going kept successfully.
At this point, it seems as if you concede Shearer can be replaced. If someone can be replaced, that would seem to indicate that their contribution to the value of the show is less than one might think. And if that is the case with Shearer, then it would tend to indicate that the studio is correct in rejecting his demands for a back end deal.
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Your talking about "concession" in a non-existent argument. I never made the statement that Shearer was irreplaceable, just that he had the same level of professional gravitas the rest of the primary cast has. Anything else has been entirely on your end.
From TurtleTrekker's link:
"While the network’s press release gave no details, an earlier report from The Live Feed contends the lead actors — they include Dan Castellaneta, Julie Kavner, Nancy Cartwright, Yeardley Smith, Hank Azaria and Harry Shearer — agreed to a pay cut from the $400,000 per episode they had been receiving since 2008."
So, yes, Shearer is just as important as your erroneously labeled "Big 4".
I said "can be replaced," I said nothing about the success of the replacement.
Of course any actor can be replaced. Since any actor can quit a show, or die, and the producers can replace them, I don't really see what this proves.
Anyone can be replaced, that does not mean that the replacement will be good for the value of the show. Again, the evidence is all on the side of Shearer having value to the people running the show comparable to the rest of the cast. Suddenly firing him would certainly not be a risk-free decision for the show.
Justin
So getting back onto the topic at hand (and bearing in mind that after 23 years the loss of any of the main actors at this stage would cripple the show, even if they got Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp to replace them), I'm glad the show is being given a shot at hitting its silver anniversary. Not counting soap operas it will be in a rather unique place shared only by Doctor Who and some Japanese shows in terms of scripted longevity. I appreciate the show for it giving us some continuity. As other shows come and go, die after 3 episodes, survive for 10 years, people shift from physical media to downloads, 2D to 3D, analog to digital, The Simpsons are still there. Even people who hate the show have to respect that.
Azaria must be breathing a sigh of relief since his other show was just cancelled.
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Poor Hank. He can't get a break as a live acting lead.
25 seasons. A nice, solid number. I do think it would be a good idea to bring it to a close after that, though.
How would you end something like that though.
In fire.
Hmmm... how could we end "The Simpsons"? Mr. Burns finally dies... Grandpa Simpson finally actually dies... Ned and Edna have a kid of their own... We could also see which future will play out for the family.
I like Conan O'Briens idea of doing a full serious episode without any laugh at all (cue the "the show is not funny anymore"-comments), sort of like a late M*A*S*H-esque episode
Surprised but ultimately happy The Simpsons will reach its 25th year.
Hopefully I'll start seeing more recently produced episodes eventually.
A recent fresh-seeming show (for Channel 4) made a joke about Homer missing UPN. Tells you everything you need to know really!
Hopefully I'll start seeing more recently produced episodes eventually.
A recent fresh-seeming show (for Channel 4) made a joke about Homer missing UPN. Tells you everything you need to know really!
I think they should do a massive series finale that spoofs every other famous series finale at some point. In particular, I'm imagining a play on the Little House finale where they blow up the town to prevent it from falling into the hands of railroad barons.
Because if there's one thing that would serve as a capstone to the legacy of the Simpsons, it's continuity.
I'm not even sure the Simpson's writers are capable to deteriorating to a level as bad as recent Family Guy episodes, and I completely agree that the Simpson's best episodes are long behind them.
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