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Shouldn't Quark's/the Promenade be open 26hrs/day?

IntrepidMan

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I've noticed in some episodes that Odo shuts down the Promenade at night and turns off all the lights. However, don't you think that at a station as busy as DS9, with lots of traffic coming and going from the Gamma Q. and elsewhere, that the Promenade should be open 26 hours a day? And Quark's and other businesses too? I can see smaller shops closing up for the day, but you would think there would be at least some businesses open late. After all, there's always a duty shift up in Ops and no doubt transports and traders arriving at all hours of the day. You would think Odo would have a night watchman or someone in his office too just to keep an eye on things.
 
To draw a partial analogy, it's not like all shops/bars are open 24hrs a day on Earth. As for traffic into the wormhole that can be regulated to a certain period during the day just as many airports do today. As for unscheduled arrivals the station is still operating at they can be accomated they just won't have use of all station facilites.
 
To draw a partial analogy, it's not like all shops/bars are open 24hrs a day on Earth. As for traffic into the wormhole that can be regulated to a certain period during the day just as many airports do today. As for unscheduled arrivals the station is still operating at they can be accomated they just won't have use of all station facilites.

I think DS9 is less like an airport and more like city. People live there and work there, and in most cities there are at least a few businesses open late at night or all night to accommodate people who work late or just want something to eat at 2AM.

And pay overtime? Are you mad?

I don't see why you would have to pay overtime. If there is enough demand, you can simply extend normal business hours and pay regular wages.
 
True, but given it's size DSN would be closer to a small town size, i.e only a few thousand residents. In small towns most business are closed overnight.
 
True, but given it's size DSN would be closer to a small town size, i.e only a few thousand residents. In small towns most business are closed overnight.

The station does have a relatively small population. But I still think that for such a cosmopolitan place, a crossroads where aliens from all over meet for business and pleasure, there would be more of a nightlife.

We never find out what time Odo shuts down the Promenade. Maybe he doesn't turn out the lights until 2AM. A curfew of a few hours each night might be a good precautionary security measure, although I think it would be out of place on a Federation station
 
Perhaps, but just because a visiting ship it might be daytime the station might be on night time.

The closest thing on Earth might be say travelling from London to Sydney whilst your body clock might be thinking it's day time, locally it's night.
 
^Definitely, but that's why I think there would be some businesses open all the time. Like when you arrive in Sydney, even though it's night there are some businesses open for travelers that have just arrived, or night owls, or people who just don't want to go to sleep yet. :)

I'm a night owl myself so I've always liked the idea of, hey it's 1 in the morning but I'm hungry so I'll go down the street and get some Chinese food from the shop that's still open, or take a ride on the subway or whatever. But as you say only in the big cities can I do that.
 
I can see how every hub of activity has a down time and DS9 being quite small, like a village, this makes even more sense. However it would suck if you were docking there for 5 hours while you restocked or whatever and everything was shut. It's not like you can go down the street to the busier block, you might not be stopping again for a week.
 
Plus you have station personnel working the third shift that may want to go somewhere for a quick lunch rather than eat at their station or in the mess hall so restaurants being open late would be nice for that.

I can't believe Quark would let a good business opportunity go, so I have to believe it is either simply station security policy or he doesn't trust anyone else to run the bar while he is sleeping. Didn't he shut down the bar when he went away? I think I remember him leaving Rom in charge once but that it is.

Oddball Theory: Could the Promenade shut down policy have been put in place to coincide with Odo's planned regeneration period? (Once every 18 hours)
 
Plus you have station personnel working the third shift that may want to go somewhere for a quick lunch rather than eat at their station or in the mess hall so restaurants being open late would be nice for that.

They have the replimat for that.
 
Plus you have station personnel working the third shift that may want to go somewhere for a quick lunch rather than eat at their station or in the mess hall so restaurants being open late would be nice for that.

Yes exactly, I agree. This doesn't mean every shop needs to be open, but one or two places with extended hours for the late-night crowd.

Oddball Theory: Could the Promenade shut down policy have been put in place to coincide with Odo's planned regeneration period? (Once every 18 hours)

Sounds plausible, although surely he could find a trustworthy lieutenant to watch over things while he's regenerating. Every other Starfleet facility makes do without a shapeshifter and surely DS9 can manage for a few hours! ;)

It could just be that DS9 is so small and there isn't so much going on that they shut down the Promenade because there really just isn't anyone around. This may have been true if the station remained a backwater, but with the discovery of the wormhole and the crowds we see during normal hours, it's hard to believe the Promenade would ever be empty. It seems more likely that Odo shuts it down for security reasons--if he is regenerating and does not have sufficient security personnel to oversee things.
 
The Promenade is open 26 hours daily. It's just that the owners of the businesses on the Promenade decide to close periodically. For instance, if Quark thought it was profitable to operate 26 hours a day, he would if he could. Since he doesn't, apparently it's either not profitable, or he just doesn't trust any of his employees to operate the bar without him present.
 
^Except on at least one occasion we see Odo turning out all of the lights on the Promenade at the end of the day, which suggests that he shuts it down every night for at least a few hours. Whether he does this because the businesses have already closed and there is no point keeping that part of the station open, or for other reasons, is anyone's guess. But like I've said it's hard to believe that with all of the activity on the Promenade during the day and all the people working the night shift plus traders and visitors coming to the station at all hours--it's hard to believe there wouldn't be some demand for business at night.
 
Had the station originally been created as a checkpoint for wormhole traffic, it probably wouldn't have a "night" and a "day" at all, but rather a continuum of activity that was merely marked with the traditional Bajoran clock face for bookkeeping purposes. There would be no regular or discernible peak hours or quiet times for wormhole traffic, after all.

However, the station started out as a refining and intimidation outpost on Bajoran orbit. It did not appear to be on a surface-synchronous orbit - too low for that. Might have been daylight-synchronous, though, for whatever reason (a polar orbit that overflies the same location at the same time of surface day). There might be some hidden factor there to cause the Cardassians to organize the life aboard in terms of days and nights. Although I'd rather assume they would run their Bajoran workers ragged and not have any quiet shifts at all. Their station is threefold symmetric - if they needed maintenance downtime, they'd probably do it in 1/3 slices of the station and never have a stationwide night! "Night shifts" with dimmed lights and reduced activity and responsibilities would probably be a wussy Starfleet concept.

Yet the idea of a "night" for Quark's is obvious enough (he doesn't trust anybody else to keep it open when he gets his beauty sleep). Perhaps we are simply seeing the result of Quark's being the only business on the Promenade back during the Occupation when the schedules were set, as the Cardassians wouldn't exactly need to buy jumja sticks, nor would there probably be a Klingon restaurant aboard back then. Refining activities elsewhere on the station might proceed without interruptions, but the Promenade would still have its day and night - and the Cardassian masters would probably follow the same day cycle in their habitat section.

When the Feds took over, the Promenade became a broader business center, but of course everybody followed Quark's hours because sales would have been nonexistent when Quark's was closed!

Timo Saloniemi
 
^Except on at least one occasion we see Odo turning out all of the lights on the Promenade at the end of the day, which suggests that he shuts it down every night for at least a few hours.

Or just that he's signifying that it's the night cycle. The bridge lights on the E-D dimmed during the night shift, too.
 
I couldn't agree more about Quark's not being open all of the time. Quark would never allow himself to lose income because he was not open. Plus, he operates a Dabo table and gaming is profitable. Quark would never turn down an easy profit!
 
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