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Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habits?

Kor

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I have seen the criticism that humans in Star Trek are too much like contemporary people in behavior, preferences, and habits.

Food is a major aspect of the human condition that has been through significant changes and adaptations across both time and geography. Concepts of acceptable food and drink have varied greatly depending on scarcity or availability, cultural or religious mores, specialized cultivation and breeding, etc. For example, certain meat sources have grown or waned in popularity and acceptability or have even been considered taboo, and many varieties of vegetables have been developed, such as cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, etc. all coming from brassica oleracea.

Food on Trek has run the gamut from colored synthesized food cubes to rather exotic alien foods, while Earth foods seems to have largely maintained a twentieth century Western-hemisphere paradigm. In DS9, Ferengi tube grubs are considered alien and repugnant, even though there are cultures on Earth in which similar things are eaten. In TUC, eating with your hands is considered backwards and barbaric, even though various cultures right here on Earth do that!

I think this is a golden opportunity for the new Trek series to depict an everyday aspect of human life as having changed drastically in the next few centuries, even to a point beyond what would be recognizable to a contemporary North American audience.

So what do you think? Will the current gourmet trend of molecular gastronomy become the norm for everyday meals? Will humans renounce animal food sources and turn to veganism? Will synthesized nutrient blocks or nutrient pills be the typical cuisine? Will humanity abandon the taboos that Trek’s target audience may hold dear, and frequently consume more exotic types of meats such as horse, monkey, cat and dog?

How would you like to see food depicted in the new Trek series?

Kor
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

I'm always for seeing everyday aspects of their lives in the utopia. There ought to be an option to take a pill instead of a meal which would take care of all the nutrients.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

Cheeseburgers in Utopia, please. With frings.

No, I don't want the characters to be anything other than contemporary human beings - like in the original series. Hollywood's visions of evolution and improvement are pretty empty.
 
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I'm not that bothered. They can do what they normally do and just stick an alien name in the front of a 20th century food. Fine by me.

Rigellian Cheeseburger
Mantarian Sausages
Talaxian Fudge Cake
Vulcan Root Beer
Blorgon Cheesecake
Klingon Cornflakes
Asstillian Nachos
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

In the future, people will be eating ethical meat cloned and/or replicated from either their own cells or the cells of celebrities that decide to sell a line of their meat. So I'd like to see that depicted.

I may, or may not, be being facetious with that.
 
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Skip the food and assume there's an individualized cocktail of nutrients designed from DNA analysis, in real time, beamed directly into the blood stream. Manual eating - chips, beer, and ice cream, mainly - will be for entertainment purposes only. Like bowling.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

Skip the food and assume there's an individualized cocktail of nutrients designed from DNA analysis, in real time, beamed directly into the blood stream. Manual eating - chips, beer, and ice cream, mainly - will be for entertainment purposes only. Like bowling.
I already assumed that beaming to discard personal waste from the body was going on, so this just completes the circle, I guess. :wtf:
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

In the future, people will be eating ethical meat cloned and/or replicated from either their own cells or the cells of celebrities that decide to sell a line of their meat. So I'd like to see that depicted.

I may, or may not, be being facetious with that.

The replicator would certainly open up opportunities to try all kinds of meats that would be considered bizarre or verboten here on Earth in 2015, as the source would not have to suffer and die. Perhaps even meat of extinct species would be available through DNA scanning and replication. Bronto burgers for dinner, yabba dabba doo!

Though there will probably be those who claim that replicated food isn't the same as "the real thing," even if it is identical down to the molecular level.


Skip the food and assume there's an individualized cocktail of nutrients designed from DNA analysis, in real time, beamed directly into the blood stream. Manual eating - chips, beer, and ice cream, mainly - will be for entertainment purposes only. Like bowling.
I already assumed that beaming to discard personal waste from the body was going on, so this just completes the circle, I guess. :wtf:

I find it a little difficult to conceptualize people moving beyond eating for enjoyment, as we have been doing so for thousands of years. But in a futuristic world in which everything is automated and computer-controlled and humanity has changed drastically, this would make some sense. That really would be a science fiction future.

So, like bowling, would eating by mouth be something that most people only do when bored out of their minds and there's nothing else to do? (cf Jim Gaffigan) No offense to those who like bowling; I like it too...

Kor
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

I remember seeing a documentary once where when someone would use the washroom, the waste would be tested and recommendations would be made on your next/future meals. If you were low on sodium/protein, it would tell you that and can tell you what you should be eating throughout the day. You could take this idea a step forward where you're given a vitamin pill which would supplement any missing nutrients in your diet.

But again, like Kor said, I think we enjoy food too much. Pills or beaming is cool, but it doesn't beat the real thing. Sex is the same thing, you could probably have babies or get off without a real partner, but where's the fun in that?
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

The human digestive system hasn't evolved to subsist comfortably on an entirely liquid diet or one of negligible bulk, like pills.

I like the bar food in Star Trek 2009, myself.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

I like the bar food in Star Trek 2009, myself.

I'm right there with ya.


In fact, thinking back across all of Trek, I honestly think we've had a pretty good mixture of foods on display, both from our own planet and from the planets of alien species.

We've also learned through that food a little about the cultures they come from. Vulcan's apparently prefer a fairly muted diet that does not spark a lot of reaction. Klingon's like to eat... Hearty, and full, and often still living foods.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

The human digestive system hasn't evolved to subsist comfortably on an entirely liquid diet or ...
Depends on what you mean by "liquid." My aunt has been on a liquid feeding tube for over two years, while initially a medical necessity, my aunt says she prefers it because it's easier to digest than solid food.

Has the consistency (and appearance) of thin turkey gravy.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

Soylent green.

What? They had to do something with the billions of dead Vulcans.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

I think the black hole ate your Vulcans.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

A dingo ate your Vulcan.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

I think the initial suggestion of everyone just eating colored gelatin cubes - and this never being commented on - would be an interesting way of depicting the future. Not very Star Trek-y, since we've seen dietary habits in all the shows and wherever this takes place, it should follow from what's been previously established.

I think the black hole ate your Vulcans.

The black hole sent the billions of dead Vulcans (and everything else on Vulcan, including the hunks of planet itself) into another universe. Perhaps the universe of Series Seven.
 
Re: Should the new Trek series depict radically different dietary habi

I think the colored cubes are very Star Trek-y, seeing as how they came out of the first TV show to have the name "Star Trek." They are certainly exotic and futuristic, and barely recognizable to 20th/21st-century humans as foodstuffs. That's the kind of thing I would like to see more of. I miss that aspect of Trek, showing that the aspects of everyday life that we take for granted are different from what we know.

USS Triumphant's thread in Misc on "ethical cannibalism" makes me wonder if replication of things that are currently considered taboo as foods (i.e. meat of sentient lifeforms) will be perfectly OK in replicated form, since no suffering or death will have to occur for its procurement.

In other words, should the crew on the new Trek series eat replicated human meat?

Kor
 
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