...yet the "professionals"--at least since the last quarter of the Berman era--have consistently produced ST that is uninspired dreck that fails to reach that pop cultural status of the franchise parent series.
Poll Should the fans be running the show?
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...yet the "professionals"--at least since the last quarter of the Berman era--have consistently produced ST that is uninspired dreck that fails to reach that pop cultural status of the franchise parent series.
Well, some of it is amazingly good, even though there is a lot more of mediocre (or worse) stuff out there.
Haha.good point...
Completely reasonable take.
I *very* much disagree with that. Even my personal dislike of it aside it had some serious flaws, like...uh what was his name? That Romulan guy cosplaying as an Elf? From what I remember he was completely pointless. And it's a pity, because he was the only new character I was interested in. Now I can't even remember his name.
Elnor.
He was my favorite character as well and I think they could have done a lot more with him and his relationship with Picard, especially with how guilty Picard felt over Romulus.
Matalas handled 12 Monkeys way better than Picard season 3. But then he had one 2 hour film to deal with instead of hundreds of hours worth of Trek to use. I think his Trek fan tendencies took over way too much.
Rather than fans running the shows, Id rather see the show runner also be a fan - I think what John Favreau did with Mando S1 kinda shows how that would work well. Same with Terry and S3 Picard.
Self-indulgent, got it.
Perhaps.... but the evidence of their success is apparent, and rather overwhelming.
I find it to be a bad TNG episode pretending to be a feature film.
The brilliant Englehart/Rogers run also moved Batman back to "grim avenger" state.
Yes, but because the answer isn't black or white. I think, if ytou're going to create Star Trek, you should at least have a working appreciation for what's come before. Two recent examples of how far that can go are Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks. Two recent examples of how not to proceed are Discovery and Picard. Find a balance. An example of going your own way while nodding kindly to the past was Prodigy, probably the most unique Trek since DS9.
Absolutely.
(I actually referenced "The Laughing Fish" in my most recent BATMAN novel.)
And?
I voted Yes in the sense of fans running it like how RDM, Ira Behr and Mike Sussman were fans of Trek or like how Russell T Davies, Steven Moffat and I believe Ben Aaronovitch were fans of Doctor Who. But it's also good to have some unfamiliarity but healthy dose of respect with the likes of Harve Bennett, Nicolas Meyer, Michael Piller or on Doctor Who, Andrew Cartmel. And there are examples of fans ascending to running a show and it just not being very good. I'm interested in creators who want to open the world up and introduce new things no matter what their relationship as a fan is.
Which why I'm not entirely sold on a Star Trek: Legacy, even though I enjoyed Picard Season 3. The temptation to rely solely on nostalgia is too strong. Even Lower Decks and Prodigy are steeped in Berman-era lore.
