Should Spock Prime warn them about...
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"Never, under any circumstances, film Star Trek V."
None of them.
Some of those threats are headed off pretty easily. Just give the Federation Council the stardates and a description of the solution, and lives are saved. Others, such as V'Ger, require a specific type of individual to be in the right place at the right time. Who knows what Will Decker is doing in this universe? Praxis exploding may not happen anyway if the Klingon political scene is different.
The first couple of things that Spock tells them should be minor phenomena that do not harm anybody to overcome the skepticism barrier. Once he is proven right about some things, he is more likely to be believed.
The first couple of things that Spock tells them should be minor phenomena that do not harm anybody to overcome the skepticism barrier. Once he is proven right about some things, he is more likely to be believed.
None of them and besides which Spock wouldn't warn them about those crisis's because it's possible they wouldn't even be encountered in the new timeline.
All of them, of course. Spock Prime has no way of knowing which if any of them still apply, but why not at least write up a report? Can't hurt. Starfleet hopefully can be trusted to use some common sense.
Does it really matter? None of those things are going to happen anyway if the writers don't make them happen. If it makes you feel better, think that Spock did inform Starfleet of everything, and they took care of it all off screen, so we don't have to worry about seeing it again.
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Not looking forward to seeing them at all. Just a mental exercise to see what people think. I'd much rather see them do something totally new. No retold tales. No characters we've seen before. However, the contents of the sequel are out of my hands. Just a little timewaster to pass the months until the next movie arrives. Or should we just continue going over what we've already seen and read over and over and over.....?
It's a new topic. You don't have to pop in here and read about it at all if it bothers you.
It's a new topic. You don't have to pop in here and read about it at all if it bothers you.
In addition to his knowledge of future events, his knowledge of technology could advance the UFP a century almost overnight. With such military technology, they would never be threatened by the Klingons, the Romulans, the Borg, or the Dominion.
That won’t happen. Spock’ will keep all that knowledge to himself and let millions die needlessly in the name of some unarticulated principle and let us argue over how to rationalize it.
Of course Spock won't tell them anything. And he will probably shirk any official Starfleet contact, preferring to work at a grassroots level with his people to rebuild their society.
But IMHO he should tell them EVERYTHING. The timeline is already pulped in most dramatic ways. Who is to say what is meant to be from this point onwards? Perhaps he should be remembered for centuries to come as Spock, the Guardian of the Future who kept us safe.. but I think even if this tempted him his spectacular failure to save Romulus after saying he would do so would keep from meddling ever ever ever again.
But IMHO he should tell them EVERYTHING. The timeline is already pulped in most dramatic ways. Who is to say what is meant to be from this point onwards? Perhaps he should be remembered for centuries to come as Spock, the Guardian of the Future who kept us safe.. but I think even if this tempted him his spectacular failure to save Romulus after saying he would do so would keep from meddling ever ever ever again.
Isn't the real question here whether this Universe has a DTI and if so, would they see Spock spilling all the beans as a definite no-no or would they see his telling all as predestined for this timeline?
In my opinion it is predestined and therefore him spilling his guts of everything he knows is fair game.
In my opinion it is predestined and therefore him spilling his guts of everything he knows is fair game.
Dukhat;4174394[QUOTE said:
Or rather: "Never, under any circumstances, let me direct."
I'm trying to give the Feddies the benefit of the doubt! 
It's no different from Starfleet assessing future possible threats and taking steps to head them off. Presumably they do that now, right? So Spock just helps them do their job better.
Maybe it was always meant to be the way it was. Maybe Vulcan was supposed to go kaboom in this universe. It's not something anyone can ever know. Anyway, if there are two universes, then there are an infinite number of them (why just stop at two?) so that means that Vulcan is going kaboom in some universe (and probably in a whole mess of them) so why not in this one?
There's nothing to "change." We aren't talking about messing up the timeline because this isn't Spock's timeline. So there's no ethical issue here. Spock should just do whatever is "logical" and will safeguard the most lives.
It's no different from Starfleet assessing future possible threats and taking steps to head them off. Presumably they do that now, right? So Spock just helps them do their job better.
The Prime Directive applies to pre-warp civilizations. Maybe you're thinking of all those timeline rules and regulations. Since Spock didn't travel w/n his own timeline, they don't apply either.
Maybe it was always meant to be the way it was. Maybe Vulcan was supposed to go kaboom in this universe. It's not something anyone can ever know. Anyway, if there are two universes, then there are an infinite number of them (why just stop at two?) so that means that Vulcan is going kaboom in some universe (and probably in a whole mess of them) so why not in this one?
I vaguely recall that Starfleet did bring in regulations in Kirk's time against going back in time and interfering (possibly mentioned in the opener of the episode where they travel back to carry out historical research). Spock would understand the concept of the Butterfly Effect too so I don't think he would be informing Starfleet about anything other than imminent world threats such as V'Ger, the energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy, and the whale probe. It may be a separate timeline but I don't think Spock would want deaths on his conscience if disaster occurred as a result of information he provided.
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