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Should have 'Future's End' lasted for a season?

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Should have 'Future's End' have lasted for a season?


Instead of in the middle of the 3rd season it is the entire 4th Season.[
]The absence of the 2 parter in the middle of the 3rd season changes the layout of the 3rd season a bit...

Darkling

Before and After


Now become 2 parters.


The season finale of the 3rd season is the beginning of the Future's End situation, with Captain Braxton showing up, and chasing Voyager for a while before he catches up and confronts them, with the result of him ending up in the 1960's and Voyager in the 1990's

4th season
1st episode:Voyager ends up in orbit around Earth in 1997. They spend most of the episode repairing damage to the ship caused by the transition through time and avoiding detection from Earth.


2nd episode: Voyagerbegins to investigate what is happening, looking for the timeship.


3rd episode: The investigating Voyagercrew run into Braxton who has become a homeless person, who investigates the person who took the timeship. Beginning of Braxton's flashbacks to the previous 30 years: the 60's.


4th episode: Continuation of Braxton's flashbacks: the 70's.


5th episode: Continuation of Braxton's flashbacks: the 80's.


6th episode: The end of Braxton's flashbacks: the 90's. Braxton then explanes what is going on and promises to stop Starling.


7th episode: Janeway and Chakotay infiltrate Chronowerx, trying to find out what Starling is up to.

8th episode: Janeway and Chakotay are caught by Starling, and they have to be beamed up by Voyager. Starling downloads some of the Voyager's computer information and programs, including the EMH. Tuvok and Paris are stuck on Earth and go to the Grifith Observatory, where someone has detected Voyager.

9th episode: Tuvok, Paris and Rain Robertson are on the run from Chronowerx, whilst Voyager has to elude both Chronowerx and the United States Government.


10th episode: Gary Seven comes to the rescue of Tuvok, Paris and Robertson, he fills them in on what he knows about Chronowerx. He adds that both Roberta Lincoln and Isis are off on missions... Voyager is boarded by Chronowerx goons and they have to be interred in the brig. Then a government contacts them. Starling interrogates the EMH.


11th episode: Voyager continues to fight against Chronowerx, which is infitrated by Seven and Paris. Tuvok and Robertson try to track down where the Timeship is being kept. The EMH is still being interrogated by Starling and some of his underlings.


12th episode: Starling captures Seven and Paris after they attempt to free the EMH. Tuvok and Robertson find the Timeship in a Chronowerx facility in Arizona. Voyager is forced to land somewhere in Mexico after China tries to attack it, using technology left over from the Eugenics Wars.


13th episode: Roberta Lincoln rescues Seven, Paris and the EMH from Starling. Tuvok and Robertson fight against the Chronowerx security when they try to take the Timeship.
The Mexican Government investigates Voyager


14th episode: Starling chases Seven, Lincoln, Paris and the EMH to Seven's base. Tuvok and Robertson are captured, and Voyager is chased off by the Mexican airforce.


15th episode:Voyagerattempts to rescue Tuvok and Robertson. Starling attempts to enter Gary Seven's base, but continually fails.


16th episode: Isis rescues Tuvok and Robertson from Cronowerx and takes them to a backup base. Voyager attempts to relieve the Cronowerx seige of Gary Seven's main base, with the help of Seven, Lincoln, Paris and the EMH.


17th episode: Isis, Tuvok and Robertson help Voyager rescue Seven, Lincoln, Paris and the EMH from the Cronowerx beseiged Aegis main Earth base, which then self destructs.


18th episode: Leaving Isis in charge of the backup base, Gary Seven, joins Voyager,which hides on the side of the Moon facing away from Earth, to discuss with the senior officers about what to do with the Timeship.


19th episode: Gary Seven oversees the retrofit of Voyager] with Aegis technology that will allow them to confront Chronowerx, and take the timeship. In the meantime Starling searches for the backup base, and moves to secure his postion.

20th episode: Janeway and her senior officers begin to plan with Gary Seven about how to confront Chronowerx. Starling continues searching for the backup base.


21st episode: Janeway, her senior officers and Gary Seven finalise their plans to confront Chronowerx. Voyager comes out of hiding from behind the moon and confronts Chronowerx. Starling finds the backup base in the meantime leading to the backup base being besieged at the same time as Voyager attacking Chronowerx.


22nd episode: Chronowerx is under attack by Voyager, the Aegis agents and those allied to them. Starling takes over the backup Aegis base and uses its technology to finish his repairs to the timeship. The episode, and the season, ends as Starling launches the timeship

5th Season:

1st episode: Voyager, the Aegis and their allies continue to fight against Chronowerx and their allies to prevent Starling travelling through time and destroying the Sol system in the 29th Century.
This fight comes down to a wire, and the timeship is destroyed. It is now obvious that the timeline has been changed. (Though viewers that watch Deep Space Nine know that there hasn't been any obvious real change in the 24th Century) Voyager remains in the 20th century at episode's end.

2nd episode: Gary Seven makes preparations to return Voyager to the 24th Century, as the crew help the Aegis agents mop up some of the mess from the fight against Chronowerx. Then an alternate timeship (named Relativity) appears, captained by an alternate (and older) Braxton. Over the objections of Janeway (who wants to return to the 24th Century Federation) and Gary Seven (who still wants to remove the Aegis tech from Voyager and agrees with Janeway about returning to the Federation) the Relativity returns Voyager to the 24th Century Delta Quadrant at the time and place that they had left.


What happens next?
There are many possibilities but I'll look at one here. First Contact had been released and TPTB still want to cash in on the Borg.
Expect increasing rumours of Borg in the first half of the fifth season. (There had been little mention of the Borg in the Future's End arc, though maybe more on Deep Space Nine [despite the Dominion War])

And then Scorpion airs at the same time that Dark Frontier had aired in our timeline, introducing Seven of Nine (though maybe a different number to reduce confusion with the other Seven? Still Jeri Ryan?) Voyager finds a wormhole across Borg space after the defeat of Species 8472 (with Kes staying on Voyager somehow), though they still run into the effects of the Borg from time to time.

And then:

Last episode of 5th Season.
Voyager encounters the Krenim Imperium. After the Krenim detect 'Seven of Nine' aboard Voyager, the ship is attacked! Leading into the 'Year of Hell' arc in the 6th season.

6th Season Year of Hell arc.

7th Season.
1st episode: Voyager finally leaves Krenim space.

Voyager is now enhanced with Aegis, Borg and Krenim technology (After having to repair themselves with salvaged debris in the Year of Hell).

They run into the Borg, the Malon and the Hirogen througout the 7th season.

At the end of the 7th season Voyager becomes trapped in orbit around a planet on which time goes a lot faster than normal. This leads into the 8th Season 'Blink of an Eye' arc.

8th season:
Blink of an Eye arc. Voyager is instrumental in the development of a planet from the stone age to the space age.

9th Season
Voyager escapes from the space age planet in the first episode, ending the series' last season-long arc. The series is more episodic from this point onwards.

The series is cancelled at the end of the 11th season (in 2005) with Voyager still in the Delta Quadrant.

keep in mind that is only one way the series could go from after a year long 'Future's End' arc.



What do you think? Should have had 'Future's End' lasted for a season?
 
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I honestly don't think Future's End had enough behind it to pull off a season arc. To be honest, it seemed to be struggling to make a two-parter. They had to pad it out by giving Chakotay another shuttle to crash, and come up with this weird Deliverence kinda thing with the gun-wielding hicks.

Darkling definitely wasn't two-parter material, and I don't think Before And After could only have worked as a standalone episode.

I've seen it mentioned that Year of Hell could've been a year long arc. That definitely would've worked, providing entirely on the fact that there was no massive reset button or quick fix to the broken state Voyager would be left in.

They could've even dragged Scorpion out to at least half a season if they wanted, instead of entering and leaving Borg space in the space of two episodes. I mean, Voyager actually spent more time in the Nekrit Expanse :p

I think they made the right decision with how they took the series to be honest.
 
I honestly don't think Future's End had enough behind it to pull off a season arc. To be honest, it seemed to be struggling to make a two-parter. They had to pad it out by giving Chakotay another shuttle to crash, and come up with this weird Deliverence kinda thing with the gun-wielding hicks.

I think it had the potential, if it is written well.

Darkling definitely wasn't two-parter material, and I don't think Before And After could only have worked as a standalone episode.

I've seen it mentioned that Year of Hell could've been a year long arc. That definitely would've worked, providing entirely on the fact that there was no massive reset button or quick fix to the broken state Voyager would be left in.

Year of Hell would have worked. (As I do mention it as the 6th season arc)

They could've even dragged Scorpion out to at least half a season if they wanted, instead of entering and leaving Borg space in the space of two episodes. I mean, Voyager actually spent more time in the Nekrit Expanse :p

I think they made the right decision with how they took the series to be honest.

Scorpion as a half season would have worked as well. With the Voyager crew trying to work with the Borg on their ship, as they work on the nanoprobe weapon. Also two or three episodes in Fluidic Space.

No. I didn't even particularly care for it as a two-parter.

Not even as I laid out?

The two parter was enough.


Possibly. I think a longer arc would have worked though.
 
Why arc on a bad 2 parter that shouldn't have been made in the first place? I am ALL for arcs, especially season long arcs, but it has to be something strong. The Season 1 Dexter arc was strong, The Heroes Season 1 arc strong, even the Enterprise Season 3 arc strong, but Future's End would be nothing but garbage I'm afraid.
 
No. I didn't even particularly care for it as a two-parter.

Well, to analyze things a little deeper-
Darkling- Wasn't thrilled with it. I have trouble seeing it as a 2-parter.
Before & After- It worked well as a one-hour episode. I'm not sure there would have been sufficient material to make it two.

4th season- I think you're stretching things too much. I question whether the episodes as described really merit the amount of time that you'd give them. Braxton's flashbacks in particular seem like an unpleasant and unfortunate diversion...what makes him so important that we should devote more than 2 entire episodes just to his trials and tribulations? It's akin to IaMD...except that I think people found IaMD far more diverting.
There's also a major gaffe- if this is the fourth season, how and when did Seven join the crew? You have her listed during the fourth season events, but no information regarding how you'd restructure Scorpion.

Gotta go...I can say more later if you want me to...
 
As Spock would say the premise of Futures End lasting for an entire season wuld be "Illogical" that being said I like your imagination. Bringing Gary Seven his secratary and his Cat into the mix cracked me up, keep up the good posts...

Resistance is Futile
 
hmmm i liked the idea at first..

BUT once u started listing episode happening i was like i dunno

once u get to ep 14 it is all just secret bases.. just FILLER like the old eps of Doctor Who.. sure they are 6 part eps.. but those stories could have been told in like 3.

i think would be better if YoH was a season.. like it was envisanged

Or if you arcs that werent soo definite.. i mean,. real life doesnt alwaays have definiate beginins and ends.. things just fade out while other things fade out

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No. I didn't even particularly care for it as a two-parter.

Well, to analyze things a little deeper-
Darkling- Wasn't thrilled with it. I have trouble seeing it as a 2-parter.
Before & After- It worked well as a one-hour episode. I'm not sure there would have been sufficient material to make it two.

4th season- I think you're stretching things too much. I question whether the episodes as described really merit the amount of time that you'd give them. Braxton's flashbacks in particular seem like an unpleasant and unfortunate diversion...what makes him so important that we should devote more than 2 entire episodes just to his trials and tribulations? It's akin to IaMD...except that I think people found IaMD far more diverting.
There's also a major gaffe- if this is the fourth season, how and when did Seven join the crew? You have her listed during the fourth season events, but no information regarding how you'd restructure Scorpion.

Actually the Seven I have involved in the season 4 events is not Seven of Nine...

Bringing Gary Seven his secratary and his Cat into the mix cracked me up, keep up the good posts...

The Seven in the Season 4 events is the Gary Seven from the TOS episode 'Assignment: Earth'

Gotta go...I can say more later if you want me to...

that would be good. I would like to see what you would say.

hmmm i liked the idea at first..

BUT once u started listing episode happening i was like i dunno

once u get to ep 14 it is all just secret bases.. just FILLER like the old eps of Doctor Who.. sure they are 6 part eps.. but those stories could have been told in like 3.

i think would be better if YoH was a season.. like it was envisanged

Or if you arcs that werent soo definite.. i mean,. real life doesnt alwaays have definiate beginins and ends.. things just fade out while other things fade out

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'Future's End' would be a definite arc because they time travel into the past, and then return. The time travel events are definite events.
With the Year of Hell Voyager definitely enters Krenim Space, and then over a year later definitely leaves Krenim Space.
With 'Blink of An Eye' they are definitely stuck around that planet for the duration of the Arc. They get stuck in orbit at the beginning, and then get unstuck at the end. 2 defining moments that bookend that particular arc.
 
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