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Should CGI be used to put feathers on the Dinosaurs in all the "Jurassic Park" movies?

Jayson1

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Awhile back while I think I might have been on Youtube I saw a video were scientists think that how we think Dinosaurs really looked was wrong and they actually had feathers. I guess this makes sense if birds evolved from them. Should the movie's take this new evidence and try and make the films more scientifically accurate? Maybe even toss in a easter egg and sneak a Ewok in one of the movie's as well. I think Spielberg is close enough to George Lucas to arrange this.

Jason
 
I agree but I wonder about future movies that feature Dinosaurs including the eventually reboot of the current reboot.

Jason
 
They have explained it in the movies anyways, they aren't fucking dinosaurs, they are monsters that are made to look like what people expect them to look like.

When Jurassic World came out some museum in London started a pissing match with the movie. They had a problem with the movie not having feathers. Jurassic World went "We are a movie, you are a museum and don't even show dinosaurs with feathers".
 
No. Because: amphibian DNA.

The original novel even goes into this somewhat with Henry disagreeing with Hammond over the matter of "authenticity". He see's the animals as inherently inaccurate recreations and doesn't understand why Hammond doesn't want him to engineer new, more exciting animals to entertain the guests. To him there's no meaningful distinction between something essentially fictional and the animals they've made. They were never clones.
 
Those things in Jurassic Park weren't even velociraptors anyway. In reality those things were tiny. What they used in the movie was closer to a utahraptor. Velociraptor just sounded cooler.
For the record though, both species would have been feathered, but they didn't know that at the time and by extension, neither would the fictional geneticists trying to mimic what they thought they looked like.
 
Also, the whole feathered dinosaur thing hasn't been confirmed in real life. Turn on your Sherlock sense for a second and examine it logically. In the 1990s, Stephen Czerkas buys a fossil of what appears to be a featherd dinosaur from China. Massive media attention follows along with calls for all dinosaur depictions to be altered. Until it's revealed that the fossil was a fake. In fact, China has a whole industry of fake fossils, and where are almost all of the feathered fossils from? China! How likely is it that the exact instant scientists decide that they want to find a certain kind of fossil a whole batch of them will all turn up in the same country? Especially when you consider how rare soft-tissue fossilization is. And if you look at older discoveries of fossilized dinosaur skin such as the carnotaurus or the hadrosaur mummies you'll see that their entire bodies are covered in scales, not feathers.
 
captainkirk said:
Also, the whole feathered dinosaur thing hasn't been confirmed in real life. Turn on your Sherlock sense for a second and examine it logically. In the 1990s, Stephen Czerkas buys a fossil of what appears to be a featherd dinosaur from China. Massive media attention follows along with calls for all dinosaur depictions to be altered. Until it's revealed that the fossil was a fake. In fact, China has a whole industry of fake fossils, and where are almost all of the feathered fossils from? China! How likely is it that the exact instant scientists decide that they want to find a certain kind of fossil a whole batch of them will all turn up in the same country? Especially when you consider how rare soft-tissue fossilization is. And if you look at older discoveries of fossilized dinosaur skin such as the carnotaurus or the hadrosaur mummies you'll see that their entire bodies are covered in scales, not feathers.
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Yeah. The whole dinosaur feather hoax is just a giant diversion from the chem trail conspiracy.
 
Timelord Victorious said:
Yeah. The whole dinosaur feather hoax is just a giant diversion from the chem trail conspiracy.
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Don't try and compare the two. Faked fossils are a genuine problem for scientists.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-fake-fossils-pervert-paleontology-excerpt/
I'm just trying to point out that most of the feathered fossils come from the country that produces these fake fossils and they only started being found after there was a demand for them.
 
captainkirk said:
Don't try and compare the two. Faked fossils are a genuine problem for scientists.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-fake-fossils-pervert-paleontology-excerpt/
I'm just trying to point out that most of the feathered fossils come from the country that produces these fake fossils and they only started being found after there was a demand for them.
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I don't compare the two issues, except in the broad sense of being conspiracy theories.
In actual science circles it is absolutely accepted that dinosaurs, not all of them, had feathers.
This is no hoax.
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Timelord Victorious said:
I don't compare the two issues, except in the broad sense of being conspiracy theories.
In actual science circles it is absolutely accepted that dinosaurs, not all of them, had feathers.
This is no hoax.
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Questioning what's accepted doesn't make something a conspiracy theory. All I'm pointing out is that nearly every feathered fossil is from China, where there are many fake fossils. Before there was a demand for them there weren't any. Just look at these for example:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EDrzdAI4M...p2vnfWs/s1600/Osborn+Edmontosaurus+scales.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e4vwaPmNy...4gNp4MxIY/s1600/51623fe3a61a9.preview-620.jpg
Now both of those are from herbivores, but those scales are far more distinct than and feather impressions I've seen in any fossil except maybe for the archaeopteryx. I'm not saying that no dinosaurs had feathers, merely that one needs to be cautious about some of these discoveries, and some dinosaurs most definitely did not have feathers.
 
No, they shouldn't retroactively insert feathers in Jurassic Park films. However, I do want future non-Jurassic Park (for the reasons already stated) dinosaur films to include them.
 
Jurassic Park is fine just the way it is, though I did enjoy the 3D conversion.

Future movies reflecting an evolved understanding of what dinosaurs looked like might be cool, though.

And as noted, what's shown in JP and the sequels isn't necessarily intended to be actual recreations of dinosaurs so much as, for lack of a better phrase, "best guesses".

It's ironic that in the JP book it's Wu who has concerns about authenticity, while by the time of Jurassic World he's become an utter cynic about such things.
 
I'm getting a mental image of the new Jurassic World's brochures boasting things like "now with feathers!" and "most authentic dinosaurs ever!"

With Henry's presence in JW I half expected them to transpose that original artificial vs. authentic conversation from the book as a way to nod at the audience vis-a-vis feathered raptors. Too cute perhaps?

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It's ironic that in the JP book it's Wu who has concerns about authenticity, while by the time of Jurassic World he's become an utter cynic about such things.
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It's been a while since I've read it, but my recollection is that Hammond was the one insisting on "authenticity" and Henry didn't see the point. Indeed his character in 'Jurassic World' felt a lot closer to his portrayal in the original novel compared to 'Jurassic Park'. I could be misremembering though.
 
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