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Shipwide Assigned Insignia Transition To Delta Shield For All

Paramount had nothing to do with the decision not to reshoot anything to fix the incorrect insignia. The production had a budget and a schedule and it would have been ridiculous to back up to reshoot something so minor as a mistake they could just ensure against in future.

They made no effort to hide the arrowheads on the Defiant. If they had wanted to, we would have seen ANY.
 
Perhaps the arrowhead became famous during the exploits of April. Maybe it was even April himself who, after being promoted, began instituting the arrowhead for starship personnel under his command. From there the arrow head could have gain wider use. By Kirk's time the arrowhead could have been used by many starship personnel while many others still used their own. By TMP all starship personnel are fully converted to the arrowhead. Then by the movies the arrowhead has been universally adopted.

As I said, VGR: "Friendship One" established that the arrowhead was the UESPA insignia 200 years before TOS, and ENT used a very small version of it on the enlisted rating patches. So it's canonical that the insignia was in use long before NCC-1701 was built, and that it was a UESPA emblem before it was a Starfleet emblem.

In my Enterprise: Rise of the Federation novels, the approach I've taken is that the Federation Starfleet was initially a loose merger of the member worlds' space services, with each division having its own insignia. I've used the UESPA arrowhead as the Earth branch insignia, the Constellation logo as the Andorian branch insignia, the Exeter logo for the Alpha Centauri branch, and the Antares logo for the Tellarite branch (with an IDIC logo for the Vulcan branch). I figure that some remnant of these original divisions is still in use by the 2260s (since Kirk says a couple of times that the Enterprise reports to UESPA), with different insignias representing not individual ships, but different fleets/divisions operating under different administrative branches (although not necessarily broken down by member world as they were to start with). That reconciles the use of the arrowhead by multiple ships with the use of different insignias by different ships. Presumably there was some sort of administrative restructuring in the 2270s that led to the elimination of the other logos.
 
Paramount had nothing to do with the decision not to reshoot anything to fix the incorrect insignia. The production had a budget and a schedule and it would have been ridiculous to back up to reshoot something so minor as a mistake they could just ensure against in future.

Who set the budget and the (limits of the) shooting schedule. Say it with me....

P A R A M O U N T

Thanks for playing!
 
I think your concept has as good of legs as any. For me I notice that the UESPA insignia on Friendship One was that of the 2070's. I would argue that the UESPA logo evolved in the next 200 years. Its also important to note that the shape of Pike's delta is different than 2070's UESPA logo. Pike's is wider, and more rounded. It is only after WNMHGB that the delta most closely matches the 2070's UESPA logo. Arguable April's delta was different than Pike's Perhaps Pike chose the delta for the Enterprise. Maybe he chose it as a symbolic throwback to UESPA. Maybe it was just a coincidence that the two logo's looked similar. Maybe some admiral was a history buff and noticed the similarity between the Enterprise delta and the old UESPA logo so he changed it during Kirk's tenure. But in reality it's all guess work at this point.
 
Perhaps the arrowhead became famous during the exploits of April. Maybe it was even April himself who, after being promoted, began instituting the arrowhead for starship personnel under his command. From there the arrow head could have gain wider use. By Kirk's time the arrowhead could have been used by many starship personnel while many others still used their own. By TMP all starship personnel are fully converted to the arrowhead. Then by the movies the arrowhead has been universally adopted.

I always fancied the arrowhead patch as a stylized version of the of the "boomerang pennant" that was on the sides of ships and seemingly always behind the desks admirals and commodores as seen on a number of occasions. Take the boomerang, rotate it 90 degrees so it's pointing upwards, elongate it along the Y-axis, and bingo... you have the arrowhead.

The producers on Enterprise used this rationale to come up with the patch for the Defiant. I defer to their genius.
 
I find myself preferring Christopher's explanation in my head canon. Exploratory starships get the delta, crews assigned to strictly defensive purposes the Andorian/Constellation one, and so on. Similar to how Naval officers wear a surface warfare badge, a submariner's "dolphins," or aviator wings depending on where they work.
 
Who set the budget and the (limits of the) shooting schedule. Say it with me....

P A R A M O U N T

Thanks for playing!

The fact is it never went that far beyond Justman effectively saying "don't do anything to fix it in this episode", which was my point. If you want to play the Paramount card then everything is Desilu/Paramount/NBC and we don't have to mention Roddenberry, Coon, Justman, ever again.

Your snark is cute tho.
 
Here's a quick mockup of my personal canon history of the Starfleet delta. You can click for a larger version.


 
I think it is interesting that many real world space agencies use an arrowhead like shape somewhere in their logo that resembles the Starfleet logo"

NASA
US Air Force Space Command
Russian Federal Space Agency
China National Space Administration
Canadian Space Agency
JAXA
Indian Space Research Organization



The Motorola "M" logo looks like two Starfleet emblems.

My father was the chief radio technician for our local gas utility in the early 1970s, and a Motorola salesman once gave him an audio cassette of a whole, serious-sounding "radio show" episode of faux-Star Trek.

The tape opened with bridge sound fx and a Scottish-accent guy saying "You'd better come up to the bridge, Sir. Something strange is happening." And then a bunch of voice actors played out a whole Trek-like episode in which they encountered Motorola's Micor system, a new two-way radio for vehicles and their dispatcher. The starship officers end up praising the wonders of Micor.

Eventually the tape was eaten by my childhood cassette recorder. I wish I could have preserved it and made an mp3 when the digital era arrived. I would love to hear it again. As a little kid, I didn't even know what it was about.
 
I think it is interesting that many real world space agencies use an arrowhead like shape somewhere in their logo that resembles the Starfleet logo"

NASA
US Air Force Space Command
Russian Federal Space Agency
China National Space Administration
Canadian Space Agency
JAXA
Indian Space Research Organization

Probably no coincidence. NASA was around when TOS was created. And it's pretty natural for aerospace organizations to adopt emblems that resemble rockets, airfoils, and similar pointy/swoopy shapes.

In-universe, we can easily assume that the 2070s UESPA emblem was influenced by those earlier emblems, and then evolved into the Starfleet emblem.
 
...Or that it's a time loop, and Chronowerx was such an influence on Earth history that it iconized the arrowhead, so that it would still be copied a thousand years later, and eventually sent back to the 20th century.

Timo Saloniemi
 
That was the idea; to make the delta into a temporal paradox in and of itself. It certainly seems fitting for Star Trek.
 
The thing is, Chronowerx arguably did not exist in the main timeline. Remember, at the end of "Future's End," Braxton was prevented from ever going back in time in the first place, meaning that the version of 1996 we saw must have been an alternate history that was negated. The Voyager crew assumed it was part of their own history, but they didn't yet know that Braxton's accident would be undone, so their assessment can't be trusted.
 
Hmm. Braxton didn't close that particular loop by going back again, but the loop did begin with him going back and losing his ship to Starling. And our heroes exit that loop when going back to their future, even if they are being piloted there by a version of Braxton that never donated his ship to Starling.

Our heroes make it painfully clear they know next to nothing about the 1990s or its technology (which makes it rather natural that they have never heard of Starling or Chronowerx, either). Yet Janeway does know that there was a computer revolution in the late 20th century, and that it involved the introduction of the first isograted circuits - she's merely surprised at the revelation that this came to be because of time travel, and in essence "shouldn't have happened". But it very much seems it did happen, and gave birth to her Federation...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Before this gets out of hand and derails the thread just remember that's my own personal fanon interpretation. It has no bearing beyond that. If Braxton's interference didn't actually happen then I apologize for being wrong. Time loop closed.
 
^No criticism intended; it's just something I thought was worth pointing out. I didn't realize it myself until I heard the idea from former Trek novel editor John Ordover. Voyager was pretty sloppy about time-travel logic, so I'm not sure whether the writers of "Future's End" intended the events as shown to be binding or not.
 
Personally, I wonder if Augment technology is derived from some of the first bits Starling sold off from the Aeon. Particularly in a post-"Super blood" Trek continuity
 
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