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Sherlock - Series 3

Yes I can see it now...

"Aha, Magnusson, now I know your secret...er...could you excuse me a moment, I just need to pop to the chemist...no, no it's nothing, just a headache, I'll be back in an hour or so." Shouts at helicopter. "Mycroft, I'm just popping out to get some paracetamol, just wait there with all your armed men, won't be long."

I also find the notion of Sherlock shooting a man on the spur of the moment hugely preferable to him undertaking the premeditated destruction of his mind and personality. Seriously this is what people want Sherlock to do?

He didn't have time to come up with anything else, and the next day for all they knew Magnusson would have ensured he had physcal evidence, precluding killing/mind wiping him.
 
Yes I can see it now...

"Aha, Magnusson, now I know your secret...er...could you excuse me a moment, I just need to pop to the chemist...no, no it's nothing, just a headache, I'll be back in an hour or so." Shouts at helicopter. "Mycroft, I'm just popping out to get some paracetamol, just wait there with all your armed men, won't be long."

I also find the notion of Sherlock shooting a man on the spur of the moment hugely preferable to him undertaking the premeditated destruction of his mind and personality. Seriously this is what people want Sherlock to do?

He didn't have time to come up with anything else, and the next day for all they knew Magnusson would have ensured he had physcal evidence, precluding killing/mind wiping him.


Right on all counts. Remember, Sherlock went to Magnusson's home with the intention of sacrificing everything to get to his "storehouse" and destroying the information contained within, so when it was revealed that all the "information" was stored within Magnusson's mind, there was really only one way to finish the game.
In addition, he is a high - functioning sociopath, which means in part that he is not bound by normal human emotions, and is able to make decisions based on the facts at hand. So he made his calculations and took action. It was the right choice. In today's entertainment world, we have no problem with Superman or the Avengers causing millions of dollars in building damage or indirectly causing the death of hundreds so that the "world" can be saved - yet we have problem with Sherlock Holmes ending the life of a man who deliberately and maliciously caused countless people to suffer just so that he could satisfy his predatory and controlling instincts? :vulcan:
 
No, just that, as someone mentioned earlier, Holmes is known for being brilliant and clever. The standard action film 'shoot the villain' is a facile solution to employ with a character noted for solving problems with his intelligence rather than force.
 
^Not really, it's the classic Gordian knot of a problem. How do you untie the knot that can't be untied? You cut it with a sword.
 
No, just that, as someone mentioned earlier, Holmes is known for being brilliant and clever. The standard action film 'shoot the villain' is a facile solution to employ with a character noted for solving problems with his intelligence rather than force.

On several occasions during the episode, it was clear that CAM had outsmarted him, and that Sherlock was at a loss as to how to proceed. Both the short stories and the series portrayed CAM as being just as dangerous and as difficult for Holmes to out maneuver as Moriarty. It WAS the intelligent action on Holmes part, the ONLY solution with all the conditions taken into account.
 
In today's entertainment world, we have no problem with Superman or the Avengers causing millions of dollars in building damage or indirectly causing the death of hundreds so that the "world" can be saved - yet we have problem with Sherlock Holmes ending the life of a man who deliberately and maliciously caused countless people to suffer just so that he could satisfy his predatory and controlling instincts? :vulcan:

Well yeah, as despicable as it was, Magnussen was only using his powers to control people and make them suffer, not actually kill them. Which is why I think a more elegant and inspired solution was required from Sherlock, and why shooting him seemed so incredibly over the top.
 
In today's entertainment world, we have no problem with Superman or the Avengers causing millions of dollars in building damage or indirectly causing the death of hundreds so that the "world" can be saved - yet we have problem with Sherlock Holmes ending the life of a man who deliberately and maliciously caused countless people to suffer just so that he could satisfy his predatory and controlling instincts? :vulcan:

Well yeah, as despicable as it was, Magnussen was only using his powers to control people and make them suffer, not actually kill them. Which is why I think a more elegant and inspired solution was required from Sherlock, and why shooting him seemed so incredibly over the top.
Something like Mycroft's laptop being an ordinary one that's bugged. They get Magnussen's confession of black mail and Mycroft shows up to take Magnussen away for black mail and attempted theft of government secrets.

As an aside, the Gordion knot was mentioned. There are two versions told. One with the sword, and the other is that Alexander pulled out the yoke pin the knot was tied around making it easy pull the knot apart and undo the thing. I rather prefer the version where Alexander thought of something others hadn't rather than the brute force version.
 
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Holmes isn't planning on conquering Asia, is he?

Who knows what's going on in that brain of his!

In today's entertainment world, we have no problem with Superman or the Avengers causing millions of dollars in building damage or indirectly causing the death of hundreds so that the "world" can be saved - yet we have problem with Sherlock Holmes ending the life of a man who deliberately and maliciously caused countless people to suffer just so that he could satisfy his predatory and controlling instincts? :vulcan:

Well yeah, as despicable as it was, Magnussen was only using his powers to control people and make them suffer, not actually kill them. Which is why I think a more elegant and inspired solution was required from Sherlock, and why shooting him seemed so incredibly over the top.

Given there was a report that either the politician or her husband had comitted suicide it seems likely that, even if indirectly, Magnusson was killing people.

In today's entertainment world, we have no problem with Superman or the Avengers causing millions of dollars in building damage or indirectly causing the death of hundreds so that the "world" can be saved - yet we have problem with Sherlock Holmes ending the life of a man who deliberately and maliciously caused countless people to suffer just so that he could satisfy his predatory and controlling instincts? :vulcan:

Well yeah, as despicable as it was, Magnussen was only using his powers to control people and make them suffer, not actually kill them. Which is why I think a more elegant and inspired solution was required from Sherlock, and why shooting him seemed so incredibly over the top.
Something like Mycroft's laptop being an ordinary one that's bugged. They get Magnussen's confession of black mail and Mycroft shows up to take Magnussen away for black mail and attempted theft of government secrets.

As an aside, the Gordion knot was mentioned. There are two versions told. One with the sword, and the other is that Alexander pulled out the yoke pin the knot was tied around making it easy pull the knot apart and undo the thing. I rather prefer the version where Alexander thought of something others hadn't rather than the brute force version.

But everyone knew what Magnusson was up to, even if they had him on tape admitting it he's never going to court because he knows too much dirt.

Whether brute force or not the idea of the Gordian knot is just that the solution is the obvious one when people are looking for something more convoluted.
 
Holmes isn't planning on conquering Asia, is he?

Who knows what's going on in that brain of his!

Well yeah, as despicable as it was, Magnussen was only using his powers to control people and make them suffer, not actually kill them. Which is why I think a more elegant and inspired solution was required from Sherlock, and why shooting him seemed so incredibly over the top.

Given there was a report that either the politician or her husband had comitted suicide it seems likely that, even if indirectly, Magnusson was killing people.

If memory serves, the politician on the hearing board was arrested on corruption charges or something very similar and the husband commited suicide.

CAM didn't kill people himself, but with his media empire and his knowledge, he would publish stories that would mean people ended up dead one way or another.

Shooting him in the head, destroying the brain was the only way Sherlock could have resolved the situation.
 
It's just too typical action hero. I'd preferred they'd stuck closer to the book as they had up till Mary showed up to shoot him. Let her do it before and Holmes and Watson her there discovering the body. They continue to investigate and uncover her background and ultimately he and Mycroft bury the facts for he greater good. The sociopath bit has never done anything for me- intelligence is insanity, fine idea- and having Holmes shoot his way out of the problem is just all too banal.
 
While shooting him was far too easy and obvious a solution, I did absolutely love that he shouts MERRY CHRISTMAS! before shooting him :lol:
 
I felt exhausted after watching 3.3 and can't wait to watch it again.

I am saddened at Holmes solution but feel like it was the *logical* thing to do.

I have also greatly enjoyed Mr. Miller's Elementary and think his Holmes is the one more likely to shoot someone as the final solution.
 
So that was Ben's real mom and dad in the last episode playing Sherlock/Mycroft's parents, right?
 
Yes! Loved that bit.

As for "Sherl" (loved that bit, too) offing CAM, it was logical. Sherlock went there with the intent to destroy CAM's library. Upon finding out the library was in CAM's head, he destroyed the library as soon as he could.

Remember, at the wedding, Sherlock said he rarely vows anything. He promised Johnhe would prove his love. John loves Mary, therefore Mary must be safe. B'bye CAM, you shouldn't have threatened John's happiness.
 
So that was Ben's real mom and dad in the last episode playing Sherlock/Mycroft's parents, right?


Yes! It's funny how "normal" they are portrayed. It must have been tempting to make them nutcases but I like the dichotomy better. Evidently Mother Holmes was the intellectual and I find it amusing that Father Holmes considers himself the "sane one!"
 
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So that was Ben's real mom and dad in the last episode playing Sherlock/Mycroft's parents, right?


Yes! It's funny how "normal" they are portrayed. It must have been tempting to make them nutcases but I like the dichotomy better. Evidently Mother Holmes was the intellectual and I find it amusing that Father Holmes considers himself the "sane one!"

Who remembers Benedict's mom, Wanda Ventham, as Col. Virgina Lake in the 70's series UFO?
 
So that was Ben's real mom and dad in the last episode playing Sherlock/Mycroft's parents, right?


Yes! It's funny how "normal" they are portrayed. It must have been tempting to make them nutcases but I like the dichotomy better. Evidently Mother Holmes was the intellectual and I find it amusing that Father Holmes considers himself the "sane one!"

Who remembers Benedict's mom, Wanda Ventham, as Col. Virgina Lake in the 70's series UFO?
I do, for it was one of the shows I used to watch when I was a kid. I had the model Interceptor, too!
 
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