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Sherlock Holmes (Downey, Law, McAdams) - Grading & Discussion

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The Hound of the Baskervilles is a fantastic book. And, in some ways, is a template for the film -- especially if you consider the "supernatural" assumption v. rational explanation ... not to mention Holmes' indifference to the actual fate of the villain.

That's all well and good, but you'll have to remind me of any canon Holmes story that ended with an elaborate fistfight between Holmes and the villain. :p
The Adventure of the Final Problem
 
There is news that the sequel could start shooting as early as this summer. I for one am looking forward to it.

http://screenrant.com/sherlock-holmes-2-shooting-summer-2010-ross-41126/

Great news! It was to be expected and that article is the first I've seen a budget reported on the film but I stopped looking some time ago.

I wasn't too keen on Cowboys&Aliens anyway. Its just Serenity but with aliens as a period piece. With RDJ off that project it'll be good to have SH:2 so soon after the first and on the heels of what is sure to be a mega hit Iron Man 2.
 
The Hound of the Baskervilles is a fantastic book. And, in some ways, is a template for the film -- especially if you consider the "supernatural" assumption v. rational explanation ... not to mention Holmes' indifference to the actual fate of the villain.

That's all well and good, but you'll have to remind me of any canon Holmes story that ended with an elaborate fistfight between Holmes and the villain. :p
The Adventure of the Final Problem

That's the one where Holmes dies at the end (only to be brought back by Doyle to appease hungry readers later)? I admit it's one of the stories I haven't read, but I still doubt it ends in an elaborate and possibly geography-defying fist fight like the film. According to wikipedia, the fist fight isn't even shown in the story, Watson just sees the aftermath.

But I should read the damned thing at some point.
 
That's all well and good, but you'll have to remind me of any canon Holmes story that ended with an elaborate fistfight between Holmes and the villain. :p
The Adventure of the Final Problem

That's the one where Holmes dies at the end (only to be brought back by Doyle to appease hungry readers later)? I admit it's one of the stories I haven't read, but I still doubt it ends in an elaborate and possibly geography-defying fist fight like the film. According to wikipedia, the fist fight isn't even shown in the story, Watson just sees the aftermath.

But I should read the damned thing at some point.
That's the one. And it is true that Watson deduces the fight from the evidence on the cliffs, and that we, the readers, never get a blow-by-blow account. But the fight occurred nevertheless. I haven't read it since I was a kid, but if I'm remembering correctly Holmes even tells Watson that he used martial arts when fighting Moriarty at the cliffs in the next story! So while elaborate action sequences weren't directly a part of the books (though fights were implied), they're not really as much of a stretch as people are making them out to be.

And yes, you should read it! The books are great!
 
I've read some of the short stories 6 or 7 years ago, and loved them. I know my brother has all of them around somewhere, so if I find the time, I'll definitely give them a go.
 
^I'd also recommend Doyle's science fiction. His cantankerous Dr Challenger is a hysterical character, and his stories are really fun early sci-fi.
 
I have The Lost World on the shelf now, so there's really no excuse for me not to be reading that. As soon as I finish reading Future Noir, Double Indemnity, and The Double-Vision of Star Trek I'll try and fit in something.
 
Finally saw this, as our fleapit has it this week. 10/10 - wow. A different interpretation but just as valid to the stories; a slightly different tone for Guy Ritchie... RDj is the best Holmes since Brett, Jude Law is the best Watson since... Um, is probably the best Watson, end of. The movie overall is the best time I've had in a cinema since Star Trek back in May, and probably the best theatrical Holmes movie since the Hammer version of Baskervilles...

It had lots of lovely references to the original stories (directly quotes from many, including The Man With the Twisted Lip, and the Boscombe Valley Mystery) as well to other screen incarnations - even knocking off the Brett version's title sequence's crane pan through Baker Street

I had a couple of minor niggles - Watson should be a better shot, for example, but overall it was bloody great! I fear Moffat/Gatiss' version will have a job catching the right mood as well as this (unbelievably) managed to do.

I want Gladstone to have a bigger role in the sequel...
 
The fight sequences in the movie are very much like the Robert E. Howard fight sequences in the Lord of the Rings movie. The text doesn't write the action but implies it. The Holmes movie does get kind of boring with the action but giving us a better Watson makes up for it, I think.
 
Just saw the movie today. I really loved it.

Robert Downey Jr and Jude Law gave standout performances as Holmes and Watson. The writers did a good job showing Holmes as a great fighter and also his impressive detective skills. Rachel McAdams was good eye candy. I'm glad this movie is doing well.
 
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