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Shenzhou launch date?

Syd Shanshala

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I'm curious as to whether the kelvin type or the walker class came first? Can't find launch dates for either of them, and the shenzhou is considered old in 2248.
 
Someone posted a close-up of the plaque awhile ago (or was it a fan-made mock-up?0, which probably had a meaningless stardate on it somewhere.

The USS Kelvin was launched in 2225, as per her dedication plaque in the Star Trek Ency.
 
Someone posted a close-up of the plaque awhile ago (or was it a fan-made mock-up?0, which probably had a meaningless stardate on it somewhere.

The USS Kelvin was launched in 2225, as per her dedication plaque in the Star Trek Ency.

There is no date on the Shenzhou's Plaque

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She still has lateral vector transporters like the NX-01, in contrast to the Connie, whose design dates originally to "about forty years" before TOS per The Making of Star Trek (1968), i.e. mid 2220s by today's parlance. (Of course, there's nothing to say the Connie didn't originally have those as well, since we never saw her configuration at launch. If we go by changes between first pilot, second pilot, and series proper—despite them all getting mixed together in FX throughout the latter—then it seems the Enterprise at least did receive periodic upgrades, even if other ships didn't.)

-MMoM:D
 
^Three masts, and oars without line of sight across the hull?? Canon violation!!!1!:scream::mad::brickwall:

They're also not round enough.

It's a alternate timeline Romulan junk. They stole it from the Chinese. Notice the secret motor on the end? Romulan's are sneaky like that. And those are solar panels, not oars.
 
She still has lateral vector transporters like the NX-01, in contrast to the Connie, whose design dates originally to "about forty years" before TOS per The Making of Star Trek (1968), i.e. mid 2220s by today's parlance. (Of course, there's nothing to say the Connie didn't originally have those as well, since we never saw her configuration at launch. If we go by changes between first pilot, second pilot, and series proper—despite them all getting mixed together in FX throughout the latter—then it seems the Enterprise at least did receive periodic upgrades, even if other ships didn't.)

-MMoM:D
NX-01 had one transporter, and it was supposed to be for cargo, but I think it was the vertical-type, just with one big pad.
 
NX-01 had one transporter, and it was supposed to be for cargo, but I think it was the vertical-type, just with one big pad.
From "Broken Bow" (ENT):

TRAVIS: I heard this platform's been approved for bio-transport.
REED: I presume you mean fruits and vegetables.
TRAVIS: I mean armory officers and helmsmen.
REED: I don't think I'm quite ready to have my molecules compressed into a data stream.
TRAVIS: They claim it's safe.

At launch it looked like this:

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It was upgraded in the fourth season, and in "Daedalus" (ENT) we see behind its walls:

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(Those circular glass panels were actually original pieces from the TOS transporter set floor that had also been re-used on TNG as well, IIRC. Will have to look for a source on that to verify, though.)

-MMoM:D
 
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From "Broken Bow" (ENT):
(Those circular glass panels were actually original pieces from the TOS transporter set floor that had also been re-used on TNG as well, IIRC. Will have to look for a source on that to verify, though.)

-MMoM:D

They both used fresnel spotlight lenses but I dont know if the NX-01 lenses are the same ones. I think they are smaller. But basically the same type lens. I know STC did use acryllic copies of the original TOS fresnel lenses, and there' some video where you can see the size of them.
 
They both used fresnel spotlight lenses but I dont know if the NX-01 lenses are the same ones. I think they are smaller. But basically the same type lens. I know STC did use acryllic copies of the original TOS fresnel lenses, and there' some video where you can see the size of them.
Thanks! What I had remembered reading was this bit about the TNG transporter in Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens' The Art Of Star Trek, pg. 78:

"More than just design elements from the original Enterprise turned up in the Enterprise-D. The glass floor disks from the original transporter-room set were installed in the ceiling of the new transporter. (And those same disks have found a home in the U.S.S. Voyager's transporter room today.)"

Always thought that was pretty dang cool. Don't know why I never twigged to the fact of what they actually were.

Memory Alpha has more details, but doesn't specifically say as to whether the ENT ones were those same originals or not, though it seems a fair bet:
The transporter pads from TOS were simple Fresnel lenses. John Dwyer, a set decorator who worked on both TOS and TNG, explained, "In the original series, the lights in the platform under the round rings were curved lenses, polished in such a way as to make the light really bright, like you have in lighthouses; but they also use them in the bigger stage lights, and that's what these were." (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 12, p. 25) (See this Flash recreation from a scene deleted from "Mudd's Women" for an indication of the luminosity of a 10,000 watt Fresnel lens.) These components were the only part of the transporter set that remained when the set was redesigned for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. (audio commentary, Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Blu-ray)) The Next Generation also used the lenses as the units in the ceiling directly over the pads. (The Art of Star Trek, p. 78) Dwyer recounted, "[Production Designer] Herman [Zimmerman] said, 'Hey, that's a good idea; let's just keep it!' So we did." (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 12, p. 25) The same components were additionally included in the transporter of the USS Voyager in Star Trek: Voyager. (The Art of Star Trek, p. 78) Michael Okuda remembered, "One day during, I think, Voyager, I happened to be working in the catwalks above the set and I was looking at those lenses. Five of them looked yellowed and chipped, so I believe that they were from the original series. One of them looked a lot newer." (audio commentary, Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Blu-ray))

-MMoM:D
 
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amazing they kept those things around for so long, and I guess someone still has them, since STC got to make moulds for their copies. I wonder if they got sold at It's a Wrap
 
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