Definately cuter than that classic cover from the National Lampoon. Not quite as effective, but cuter.
shatner will be in XI
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Definately cuter than that classic cover from the National Lampoon. Not quite as effective, but cuter.
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You Germans should better learn proper german yourself before you start correcting someone else's english grammar.
You Germans should better learn proper german yourself before you start correcting someone else's english grammar.
^ Erm...please do not post in German on this board - especially while in a disagreement with another poster.
The mods need to be able to read your posts.
Thanks.
The mods need to be able to read your posts.
Thanks.
I visited the Bring Back Kirk site for the first time the other night. I can understand being disappointed in the way Kirk died in Generations, but I worry for those that are spending so much and time and effort trying to undo something that happened to a FICTIONAL character. It just seems like a rather odd obsession to me especially with the Shatnerverse books as an option. Just because the books aren't considered "official canon" doesn't mean you can't pretend they're real. When it comes down to it, ALL of Star Trek is pretend after all.
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There was no disagreement really (except him being wrong).
And sorry for the derailing.
There was no disagreement really (except him being wrong
).And sorry for the derailing.
Obviously untrue. Paramount in fact made more money off of "Star Trek" which didn't have Kirk in it than Trek that did. Otherwise, he and the other oldsters would not have been retired.
More non-Trek fans watched TNG than any other version of Trek in history. Go check it out.
The truth is, only the kinds of folks who post on Trek boards really give a damn about Shatner in Trek one way or another. You can be absolutely sure that it was the hard core who stuffed that USA Today online "poll" the other week.
Right! I had forgotten that Star Trek was Shatner's idea. The stories were his ideas, and the scripts were his work. Wait a second...
And if Shatner had been consistantly given shitty material to work with, do you think his all-mighty presence would have saved the show?
Yes, he was one of the stars of the original Star Trek. I'm sorry grasshopper, but this isn't the original Star Trek; it may be based on it, but this most certainly isn't it.
Please see my above comments on every thing Shatner did for the show.
Right, I had forgotten that it was Shatner that made the character of Spock so popular! My bad!
Oh, and " I Am Spock ", anyone? And don't forget the instant classic "Get a life!"
Yes, lets all fasten our seatbelts for Star Trek XI: The Search for Kirk! Seriously, how many movies do we need dedicated to bringing someone back from the dead? Keep in mind two very important tid-bits that Abrams mentioned a while back.
1)He said there was no major reason why Shatner was needed for the story, so why bother bringing him back? And..
2)He said he thought about trying to get Shatner in, but anyway he couldn't do it without it seeming like fanwank! What does this means? This means he wants to put out a good, reasonable movie, not a tip of the hat, please as many fans as possible movie. He's not going to stretch to give the fans every freakin reference they want, even if it's Shatner.
Because Abrams is going to order massive rewrites to please the fans who literally know nothing about the movie. Good luck and have fun with that.
I grew up on syndicated TOS in the 1970s. I think Kirk is great. However, I don't think Shatner's participation in this film is required for it to succeed, either artistically or financially....and from what I can surmise from being on this and other Star Trek forums for a while, I don't think I'm the only TOS/Kirk fan who feels that way. I can separate the character from the actor -- very easily, actually.
So if someone wants to boycott due to the absence of Shatner in this film, then that's fine with me -- to each his/her own. However, that person shouldn't assume that his/her feelings on the subject are shared by the masses, nor will their personal feelings have any effect on the popularity or quality of the film.
So if someone wants to boycott due to the absence of Shatner in this film, then that's fine with me -- to each his/her own. However, that person shouldn't assume that his/her feelings on the subject are shared by the masses, nor will their personal feelings have any effect on the popularity or quality of the film.
Superman, I could easily warn you for trolling here as you deserve a warning and should rightfully get one after all the friendlies and warnings you have received for similar behavior, but just to show you that I am not so out-to-get-you as you claim, I'm gonna let you off with a strong friendly.
Knock it off, like now. It would be really, really, nice if you could learn how to use the ignore button...or better yet, perhaps learn the art of ignoring people you don't agree with all on your own.
If you do it again, it will be a warning for trolling. Supposed 'bias' or not.
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it would be cool for Shatner to get a good cameo in Trek 11 but I don't think It will happen. What would actually work is once the new cast is established in Star Trek 11 and after it is released and everybody watches the dvd over and over is for Star Trek 12 to have Shatner in it in a central portrayal of Kirk alive again. Fans would flip out and it would keep things shaking for the new cast. Shatner isn't 25 anymore and it would give fans and Kirk for Kirk to be seen one last time onscreen and if it is the last time let our Good Captain best the sloppy way his death was handled in Generations which was done all wrong.
Superman
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So let me see if I've got this straight.
You're going to threaten me while continuing to turn a blind eye to the Shatner bashing that goes on in this forum.
A forum that could quite possibly be visited by Shatner or people that work for him/know him? If you'll recall, his daughter Elizabeth visited the TBBS years ago.
If anything, these Shatner bashers are trolling. Not ONE thread dealing with Kirk or Shatner is immune from the idiotic and asinine comments about Shatner's weight, hair loss,and ego, yet NO MODERATOR puts a stop to that?
Utter rubbish.
I will speak out against this, as I see it as wrong, regardless of whose opinion mine disagrees with.
And I think you moderators (yes, not just YOU) need to look at this issue and issue one of your little stickies about it.
There are others here who will also step in and call idiots out for insulting not only Shatner, but ANYONE who works on Trek.
And I think the administration here needs to do the same.
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It's long been established that criticizing the people who make the shows, who are not members here, are more or less fair game. That's not the best way to describe it, but it's pretty much across the board that way. William Shatner has no more immunity from it than do Ron Moore, Mike Okuda, jms, Joss Whedon, etc.
Superman
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^^^Ah, Neroon.
So that's your "reasoning?"
Mr. Okuda is a member of this community. You're telling me it's okay to essentially flame him, and that there's nothing in place to either prevent that from happening?
Or most disturbingly, nothing to attempt to raise the bar of personal standards around here.
I'm far from being a saint, but maybe you mods and admins could post a sticky in each forum asking the members to consider their words more carefully, EVEN with regards to people who are, as you put it, "fair game."
Or is this place so mired by liberalism and small-mindedness that we will now let anything go, ignoring the opportunity to challenge people to respect others and to personal improvement?
So much for the oft-lauded values of Star Trek.
They ring hollow here.
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So that's your "reasoning?"
Mr. Okuda is a member of this community. You're telling me it's okay to essentially flame him, and that there's nothing in place to either prevent that from happening?
Or most disturbingly, nothing to attempt to raise the bar of personal standards around here.
I'm far from being a saint, but maybe you mods and admins could post a sticky in each forum asking the members to consider their words more carefully, EVEN with regards to people who are, as you put it, "fair game."
Or is this place so mired by liberalism and small-mindedness that we will now let anything go, ignoring the opportunity to challenge people to respect others and to personal improvement?
So much for the oft-lauded values of Star Trek.
They ring hollow here.
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