I was trying to go along with what I saw as a joke, but it's not worth getting in a fight over, especially since I use "one" anyway. Aplogies for the misunderstanding.
Shatner Slams E.U. Censors Proposal to Ban Star Trek’s “To Boldly Go Where No MAN Has Gone Before "
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I don't care what version anyone uses. Whatever floats your boat. But if someone gets mad at you for your choice then feel free to go tell them to pound sand. It is kind of silly to be fighting or making a big deal over a change that happened in 1987 and while it might have ruffled a few feathers at the time is now literally a issue nobody cares about unless they have to much time on their hands.
Well The Shat did say this: (in 2021)
I am so tired of presentism & moronic people who continue to place today’s value systems on the past to judge. They cannot comprehend that the fact they have the freedom to judge is because of what brave people did in the past. Education needs a wake up call.
Or Yesterday:
Maybe they want to spell it as EUman?
But honestly, I has gone a bit to far in judging the past by todays rose tinted glasses.
Oh Airplane followed by Blazing saddles is on. .cool let me watch!
I am so tired of presentism & moronic people who continue to place today’s value systems on the past to judge. They cannot comprehend that the fact they have the freedom to judge is because of what brave people did in the past. Education needs a wake up call.
Or Yesterday:
Maybe they want to spell it as EUman?
But honestly, I has gone a bit to far in judging the past by todays rose tinted glasses.
Oh Airplane followed by Blazing saddles is on. .cool let me watch!
The biggest problem is both sides look foolish when fighting over stuff like this. Fighting over nonsense. Might as well be the slogan for modern day political discourse. Apparently people were more evolved in 1987 than they are today because this "issue" resolved itself in a less stupid way then than I can guess it can today
. TNG changed it because Roddenberry wanted to change it. Not because of some government guideline. A few I am sure complained a little but in the end everyone got over it. The new version came to be. The old version was still around and nobody really had a issue if some still kind of thought of the old version as ""their" version. People then at some point stopped talking about it at all until 2024.
. TNG changed it because Roddenberry wanted to change it. Not because of some government guideline. A few I am sure complained a little but in the end everyone got over it. The new version came to be. The old version was still around and nobody really had a issue if some still kind of thought of the old version as ""their" version. People then at some point stopped talking about it at all until 2024.
Is... whoever is complaining aware of the fact that English is just one language among many in the EU and that therefore the TOS intro has been translated into other languages where these rules might not even apply...? Or that this entire thing is far easier in English compared to languages like German or French that use gendered nouns etc. I mean...? Or am I missing a point here? 
I'm outraged that there is nothing here for me to be outraged about.
I think Shatner just thinks Trek was singled out whereas this was prevalent in many other mediums and was part of the lingo back then. Neil Armstrong's famous words included.
Its something that Star Trek cleary addressed and acknowledged before the " woke" tetm was commonplace.
At the end of Star Trrk VI they went far as having Shatner correct himself from saying "man" to "one" in the final captains log. Something they didn't have to do. ( could of just said "one" to begin with). For that reason, I can see why some may feel they should of picked on something other than Trek. ( which you could say was "one" enough to admit it was time to evolve. ) But really nothing really here.
Its something that Star Trek cleary addressed and acknowledged before the " woke" tetm was commonplace.
At the end of Star Trrk VI they went far as having Shatner correct himself from saying "man" to "one" in the final captains log. Something they didn't have to do. ( could of just said "one" to begin with). For that reason, I can see why some may feel they should of picked on something other than Trek. ( which you could say was "one" enough to admit it was time to evolve. ) But really nothing really here.
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That's because the really juicy discussions that are guaranteed to provoke delicious levels of outrage get closed just when they're at their most interesting.
And that's the way to do it.
Zefram Cochrane in the recorded dedication speech for the Warp Five Complex also says "where no man has gone before" and in-universe Cochrane is the origin for the famous saying. Just sayin'. It's not just Shatner as Kirk.
By the way, English is a work in progress, not carved in stone.
That's what I thought. Why haven't the EU Gender equality censors caught that?Archer said it at the end of ENT as well.
Why do gender equality censors exist anywhere?
I'm an equality proponent myself. But I'm not an equality censor. I actually believe it when Picard quotes Aaron Satie: "the first time any man's* freedom is trodden upon, we're all damaged." Forcibly silencing those who disagree with you, be it in the name of patriotism or equality, has no place in a free society.
*Yes, anyone's freedom would be better, but that's not the quote.
*Yes, anyone's freedom would be better, but that's not the quote.
I stopped reading the moment i reached the words "the torygraph".
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They were probably too busy with all the not existing they were doing.
