Things usually become cliche because there's an element of truth, and honestly if I were in the same situation there would have been a gallon of jack and a 24 pack of coke zero right next to me. Her entire world just got turned upside down. Her husband was dead, and her daughter was on a ship on the other side of the universe using someone else's body to communicate.
SG-U – Air part 3 (1x03) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Things usually become cliche because there's an element of truth, and honestly if I were in the same situation there would have been a gallon of jack and a 24 pack of coke zero right next to me. Her entire world just got turned upside down. Her husband was dead, and her daughter was on a ship on the other side of the universe using someone else's body to communicate.
Projecting much?
Besides, I think Americans hate the assholes in their population as much as other people do. I am not sure why we have to limit it by county through. People like you, for example, can be found everywhere.
Eli is anything but dumb. He was smart enough to solve the puzzle in the game and to figure out that Earth might be the 9th chevron. He also seems able to partially read Ancient based off playing a computer game.
Noticed something on a rewatch.
There's a scene where Rush is looking a ta pic of himself and a woman, and he's quite sad. When he puts the pic away, he closes the drawer withn his right hand, where he's wearing a ring which I think is a wedding band.. Wedding ring on right hand means, iirc, he's a widower
There's a scene where Rush is looking a ta pic of himself and a woman, and he's quite sad. When he puts the pic away, he closes the drawer withn his right hand, where he's wearing a ring which I think is a wedding band.. Wedding ring on right hand means, iirc, he's a widower
Obviously I'm out of sync with contemporary fashion, but I think it's very sad to see Stargate sink to this level. Stargate was never my favorite franchise, but it was good Space Opera and consistently well done; to see it become a juvenile nuBSG clone is painful. The mother with the booze dribbling from her chin made me cringe and the junior high school dramatics between the Army loser and the alleged scientist was incredibly embarrasing. Nothing here but adults behaving like disturbed adolescents for the sake of forced conflict; the Ron Moore view of life.
At least the camerawork wasn't as distractingly sloppy as it was last week. Maybe they're just using that as a gimmick to suck people in and will segue to a more professional look. Hopefully they'll do that with the writing as well.
And it just makes me shake my head that this incredible vessel from an incomprehensibly advanced civilization that can cross the distances between galaxies looks like something from Star Wars on the outside and an abandoned 1940s warehouse in Fall River on the inside. What do people have against imagination these days?
At least the camerawork wasn't as distractingly sloppy as it was last week. Maybe they're just using that as a gimmick to suck people in and will segue to a more professional look. Hopefully they'll do that with the writing as well.
And it just makes me shake my head that this incredible vessel from an incomprehensibly advanced civilization that can cross the distances between galaxies looks like something from Star Wars on the outside and an abandoned 1940s warehouse in Fall River on the inside. What do people have against imagination these days?
I'm sorry, but
You should have been hanging out at my place last night when my roommate and I were redesigning the Destiny and the prototype Gate system from scratch. Fun stuff. I sort of wish the Destiny's hull were textured more like some of the unused Robert Abel/Richard Taylor designs for V'Ger in TMP. That said...
What do people have against imagination these days?
Time, budget, plausibility for a mainstream audience, and above all the fact that most of the "imaginative" stuff built for Stargate in the past looked so cheesy as to be an embarrassment? But I forget we've been over this before.
I'll say this for SG:U: it shows promise, but it's clearly copying BSG for the sake of copying BSG and not because the writers "get" what made the style work for BSG. Sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't. There could certainly be less unmotivated shouting.
As a non-American, I couldn't disagree more. Greer is much closer to the stereotype American in some nations (although not, I hasten to add, to me, I've spent too long in the US for stereotypes to mean much anymore); loud, brash, angry-for-no-reason, shoots first asks questions later. Eli is a pleasent and realistic character you can relate to. So some of his jokes fall flat; that's real life. Sometimes, jokes fall flat - the scenes when he's trying to be 'in the gang' with the military types by attempting gallows humour were very nicely played imho.
I thought the third part was good. But I'm developing mixed feelings about Universe already. On one level I think its cool that the pilot had a slower pace than the two previous shows and they were willing to spend more time with characterization than the other pilots.
But I feel that the bickering might get old quick and the survival storylines. I want survival to be a running part of the show, but perhaps not the focus of every episode. Also, some conflict among the crew is good and should be a long running part of the show, but I don't know if I want it to be the basis of each show. I would like to see some external enemies and some more alien worlds/alien species.
So far, Universe is starting off fine, and I give them credit for letting the story move at its own pace. But at the moment, its just not my pace. And hopefully I won't get bored with the show.
Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, Universe is only three shows in, but I don't want it to become a snooze fest.
But I feel that the bickering might get old quick and the survival storylines. I want survival to be a running part of the show, but perhaps not the focus of every episode. Also, some conflict among the crew is good and should be a long running part of the show, but I don't know if I want it to be the basis of each show. I would like to see some external enemies and some more alien worlds/alien species.
So far, Universe is starting off fine, and I give them credit for letting the story move at its own pace. But at the moment, its just not my pace. And hopefully I won't get bored with the show.
Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, Universe is only three shows in, but I don't want it to become a snooze fest.
Obviously I'm out of sync with contemporary fashion, but I think it's very sad to see Stargate sink to this level. Stargate was never my favorite franchise, but it was good Space Opera and consistently well done; to see it become a juvenile nuBSG clone is painful. The mother with the booze dribbling from her chin made me cringe and the junior high school dramatics between the Army loser and the alleged scientist was incredibly embarrasing. Nothing here but adults behaving like disturbed adolescents for the sake of forced conflict; the Ron Moore view of life.
At least the camerawork wasn't as distractingly sloppy as it was last week. Maybe they're just using that as a gimmick to suck people in and will segue to a more professional look. Hopefully they'll do that with the writing as well.
And it just makes me shake my head that this incredible vessel from an incomprehensibly advanced civilization that can cross the distances between galaxies looks like something from Star Wars on the outside and an abandoned 1940s warehouse in Fall River on the inside. What do people have against imagination these days?
This.
You'd think being stranded billions of lightyears away on a broken down spaceship with no food would be enough conflict for any show, but I underestimated the nu-BSG era. That's nowhere near enough conflict for a good show. Every character needs to have a deep, dark backstory and be constantly threatening to kill each other. Cause that's how the real world works.
The only thing keeping me watching the show right now is Eli. I can almost see him as the fifth member of SG-1 and I like that.
Agreed.
In particular, the one I bolded. I am sick to death of 'not enough power' being a plotline on Stargate programmes. It was a recurring theme on SG-1 which was OK, but then it began to dominate Atlantis and got really very dull.
I am happy to accept that there isn't power to get back to Earth through the gate. That is the last 'power' related plotline they should have.
Hey, I've been a Space Opera expert since before you were born. You must accept my opinion without question.
There's not enough there for me to critique, but just about anything would be better than the usual dull gray meganooks and hypercrannies....
Yeah, this is exactly what I mean. SF-- at least for most people of my generation-- is about the "sense of wonder." But nowadays anything exotic or colorful is labeled as "cheesy" and immediately disowned because SNL will laugh at anybody who expresses appreciation of it. Everything now has to be "grounded" in mundanity to be acceptable to that mainstream audience-- which now includes a fair chunk of the genre audience. And being grounded in mundanity makes it... mundane.
Indeed. Very lazy characterization.
Eli is okay and I like him. I just have a hard time with the wish-fulfillment drafted-for-his-skill-as-a-video-gamer storyline. I can live with that, though; it's far from the stupidest thing they've done.
Yuck. Thought it was a terrible, boring hour of television. Though the first two parts had potential... This one, ugh.
Irritating, Angry Black Man is irritating, angry, and black--brilliant! Alcoholic mother was laughable--that entire scene was painful, bad writing and acting. Magic Water Tornado was exasperating. All-American "I'm gonna keep going until I find it 'cause I got to save all of us!" evaporates any drama the A storyline had, once you get passed the 30 minute mark (probably earlier to be more accurate) with no other feasible option it's obvious he's going to survive... And the cross/Christianity was a big eye-rolling moment. Being able to keep the ship from moving after the countdown has expired already destroys any tension the timer had before. Faaaantastic.
All the petty arguing is tiring and I'm the sort of guy who liked nuBSG until the ending.
I'm surprised people seem to be enjoying the show.
Undecided if I'll bother with next week's episode. I'm so disappointed, which is saying a lot because my expectations were very, very low.
Thought it was a terrible, boring hour of television. Though the first two parts had potential... This one, ugh. Irritating, Angry Black Man is irritating, angry, and black--brilliant! Alcoholic mother was laughable--that entire scene was painful, bad writing and acting. Magic Water Tornado was exasperating. All-American "I'm gonna keep going until I find it 'cause I got to save all of us!" evaporates any drama the A storyline had, once you get passed the 30 minute mark (probably earlier to be more accurate) with no other feasible option it's obvious he's going to survive... And the cross/Christianity was a big eye-rolling moment. Being able to keep the ship from moving after the countdown has expired already destroys any tension the timer had before. Faaaantastic.
All the petty arguing is tiring and I'm the sort of guy who liked nuBSG until the ending.
I'm surprised people seem to be enjoying the show.
Undecided if I'll bother with next week's episode. I'm so disappointed, which is saying a lot because my expectations were very, very low.
I'm not someone who continues to watch a series to bitch about it online. Classes are starting again in a week and I doubt I'd have time for that anyway.
I don't mind if other people like shows I don't like (as clearly many here do). The only problem I have with other people's television habits is if not enough people watch the shows I like and they get cancelled as a result.
No matter what one might think about the camera work of the pilot, "sloppy" is not a word I'd use. Time and time again has the camera work in Stargate been little more then "oh, dump the camera somewhere in the room and press the 'on'-button". I'm not saying I'm a complete fan of the camera work in the pilot, but at least it seems as if more thought has gone into it then in most of the earlier Stargate series.
Unfortunately, the camera work on the third part of Air is back to being nearly as uninspired and boring as earlier camera work on Stargate. I hope that's not going to be the trend; I don't like "shakycams", but this is the exact opposite, which is just as uninteresting.
I thought the camera on the other Stargate series were actually pretty good especially when Martin Wood was directing. The camera work in this pilot was more natural I thought but not as shakey as it was on Battlestar Galactica especially in their first season.
Well, I guess Martin Wood wasn't so bad. I'd have to check the episodes to be sure. Thing is; Stargate is old. It's been running for quite a while now. Compared to current competing series, it's not as dynamic and vibrant as it was, perhaps, in the beginning. The camera work of Air III reminded me of that. The pilot itself seemed more... creative, perhaps? Or, perhaps, it was simply the setting. I love Stargate, don't get me wrong... And finally a planet with something other then pine trees, but... the sand scenes are kind of blurring together.
Thing is; Stargate is old. It's been running for quite a while now. Compared to current competing series, it's not as dynamic and vibrant as it was, perhaps, in the beginning. The camera work of Air III reminded me of that. The pilot itself seemed more... creative, perhaps? Or, perhaps, it was simply the setting. I love Stargate, don't get me wrong... And finally a planet with something other then pine trees, but... the sand scenes are kind of blurring together.
And it just makes me shake my head that this incredible vessel from an incomprehensibly advanced civilization that can cross the distances between galaxies looks like something from Star Wars on the outside and an abandoned 1940s warehouse in Fall River on the inside. What do people have against imagination these days?
Please tell me where was this imagination you craved in SG:Atlantis?
Sounds like you simply have issues with BSG and decided to take it out on this show with your rant.
Plane crash-in the Amazon. They both flew down there for some sort of global warming review thing. Tragically the senator died, but his daughter miraculously survived(when she comes back). Until she returns she is just missing. The senators wife would die in a tragic skiing accident-sliding into a tree.
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