SG-U – Air I and II (1x01/02) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Its one ship and there are 16 fighters plus whatever icarus had. The Hammond may be more powerful, but its seriously outnumbered.
Yeah. Atlantis had maintenance while inhabited by the ancients. Destiny has been automated the whole time.
Of course not.
Also one major nitpick with Greer. He is a Marine Master Sergeant. In the Army and Air Force, it is proper to refer to higher ranking sergeants as simply sergeant. The Corps, whoever, does not shorten. Then again this franchise does give the U.S.S. prefix to ships owned by the Air Force.
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Aspects of Stargate, Lost, Voyager, and Sliders. I wasn't overwhelmed, but I wasn't completely turned off. I've finished watching SG-1 seasons 1 through 7 on hulu and yee-gads! have O'Neill and Carter aged. Daniel didn't seem so bad. I'll give it a few more episodes, but I haven't connected with the characters much at all (whereas with SG-1, I immediately liked Daniel and O'Neill).
Nice touch naming it the USS George Hammond. (although maybe that's from Atlantis or SG-1 seasons 8+? Guess I'll see.)
Nice touch naming it the USS George Hammond. (although maybe that's from Atlantis or SG-1 seasons 8+? Guess I'll see.)
That was funny though...
"What's your position?"
"Drop whatever you're doing lieutenant!"
I thought the same thing. First a transporter, now an away team.
I knew he'd die, but I didn't think it would happen in this episode.
It was nice to see Walter. Looks like he's working at the Pentagon with O'Neill.
There may not be an "SGC" now. Or at least a Cheyenne location. I know TPTB mentioned that since the NORAD base is closing for real they'll probably close it in the show too. That may be why Walter and the others were at the Pentagon. And if it's there, O'Neill may be in charge.
So where would the Stargate be? Would they just make Atlantis the new base?
Maybe the Atlantis movie will answer that
yeah, darnit, wish i could travel back in time and make 2 threads
oh well, sorry guys, didn't think it would be this massive, i underestimated
2 thread format for next week since it is the continuation of the premier
The are only thinking about moving the Stargate to a different location because they don't have room for all the sets anymore. I doubt the world governments would like the idea of have the Stargate at the Pentagon.
And the plan wasn't for it to be on Atlantis, but plans change.
I think they can fake his death easily enough.
It can if there's no air.
I used to worry about that sort of thing long before this show came along.I remember when it was 20 billion.
No.
It's the accent.
You know, he is a bit like Baltar. They both lack empathy.
It's about halfway between the 1994 movie and SG-1.
Atlantis already has a Stargate, and potentially a better one than the Milky Way gates, so it would be logical in my mind to make Atlantis the new SGC. It would be perfect. Cloaked from everyone, has a shield to protect the city, and the gate, and would be a perfect place for people to live who work in the base. Put it out in the ocean, some where far away from land. Or... attach it back to the Atlantis outpost where it was originally located.
With Atlantis back on Earth (and having a Pegasus model gate) the SGC might have been transferred there. The SGC gate would be non-functional.
I knew this would be big. It's the two-hour premiere of a fresh new Stargate series.
I'm not going to beat my way through this entire thread. I'll give it an 8. Interesting concept. I like Colonel Young and I'm intrigued by Rush. Eli wasn't half as obnoxious as I was worried he was going to be, and I'm hoping that he stays a unique enough character that he doesn't turn into Rodney McKay II. It seems like it can turn out to be a pretty good series. I liked that they didn't try to do another comedian team leader. It worked for O'Neill and it was hit-or-miss with Shepard, who at times felt like an O'Neill clone. It'll be nice to have some unique characters in general.
Destiny only reaching 4 gates? That either means that it has very limited range or that the drop ships didn't drop very many gates. We're either going to have lots of Destiny-bound episodes, or they're going to drop the limited # of gates concept. The big thing that worries me about the concept is, assuming they stick with it, the lack of "consistancy". If they stick with the current idea, we're probably not going to have recurring enemies.
The big question now is how long will it take them to drop their interesting concept, like Atlantis did, or how long it takes them to blow the interesting concept, like Voyager did.
Destiny only reaching 4 gates? That either means that it has very limited range or that the drop ships didn't drop very many gates. We're either going to have lots of Destiny-bound episodes, or they're going to drop the limited # of gates concept. The big thing that worries me about the concept is, assuming they stick with it, the lack of "consistancy". If they stick with the current idea, we're probably not going to have recurring enemies.
The big question now is how long will it take them to drop their interesting concept, like Atlantis did, or how long it takes them to blow the interesting concept, like Voyager did.
But prefecxt place doesn't mean the writers will do it, actually it means the writers won't do it!
The plan for season 6 premiere was to have the city fly back to where it came from! That is what the Atlantis movie will be about. I know it's lame, but that's the way it is.
Destiny only reaching 4 gates?
The big question now is how long will it take them to drop their interesting concept, like Atlantis did, or how long it takes them to blow the interesting concept, like Voyager did.
Four gates in that area, in 12 hours the hours the ship moves to another area and that can have 106,069 gates.
Yes i agree, the problem is when costs get too high or actors want to leave they will need a way to have the new people come in. The cast (which is the shows weak point) is really young, so if one gets pregnant in real life they will have some issues.
^ A pregnant actor is the least of a show's concerns. There have been and will continue to be ways around that, from different camera angles, to creative ways make the character disappear for an episode. Or, be creative with the shooting schedule. With RDAs schedule on later years of SG-1, parts of episodes were shot weeks apart at times.
As for actors leaving and what not. Who cares? Why should a creative team be beholded to something that may or may not happen. If a situation rises, I am sure it'll be dealt with at that time.
Anyway, I was able to catch it live. I liked it. A very different feel than SG-1 and Atlantis. Which can be a good thing. A nice shot in the arm. The sex scene didn't bother me, but, I'll admit, that was new for Stargate...at least such an explicit (well..explicit for Stargate) one.
I'll give it an 8 Chevrons. A strong start. Hope they can keep it up.
As for actors leaving and what not. Who cares? Why should a creative team be beholded to something that may or may not happen. If a situation rises, I am sure it'll be dealt with at that time.
Anyway, I was able to catch it live. I liked it. A very different feel than SG-1 and Atlantis. Which can be a good thing. A nice shot in the arm. The sex scene didn't bother me, but, I'll admit, that was new for Stargate...at least such an explicit (well..explicit for Stargate) one.
I'll give it an 8 Chevrons. A strong start. Hope they can keep it up.
I decided to catch the pilot anyway, but mostly just ot hear Joel Goldsmith's score.
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Honestly? This is as bad as some many of the episodes of "Dollhouse".
The shifting between current events and events after they happened, didn't bother me, what bothered me was: it was unecessary. It seemed to be nothing more than an attept to make it different from previous SG and make it seem more involved than it really is.
Most of the acting was standard, with a few of what appear to be lead characters, is acting sub par. No one here could ACT worth a toot (why is this becoming more & more prevelent in new shows? It's infuriating). Only Dr. Rush is acting approaches anything good, and so far only his character -- to me -- seems to be of any deeper interest. He's obviously hiding something, and I don't think it's all of best intentions.
The attack on the base? Could it be anymore "Firefly" battle-like based? Its so blatantly obvious. As is their attempt to create an emotional environment and feeling of alone that "Firefly" did. Only thingsm issing are the wester, Chinese elements, and "gorram". But unlike "Firefly", SG:U failed to capture the emotions. Daughter crying out in pain as her dad sacrifices his life? Lousy acting, tears that were not belivable at all. Emotional ride from getting pulled from everything you know and being slowly poisoned to death by your own air supply? Felt not a goddamn thing. They're trying & trying, but it just all falls FLAT. They even try to inject a handful of times some Whedon-esque humor, which works one time, but the others is nothing more thn a smirk; hire some writers from "Firefly" and I think the meotion and humor will improve dramatically.
And the Eli character? A young Joss Whedon.
This is the premise of Voyager, with ideas of "firefly", and then some Battlestar elements mixed in, all the while trying to keep is a SG series.
In my opinion, nothing here is working. Everything is butting heads and the emotion needed, isn't coming out, nor the actors/acrtresses to pull it off.
Joel's score? I hate to say it, but I am disappointed. It's a mixture of -- again -- the "Firefly" quite moments outside the ship, only in SG:U it's got not western feel and the leads string instrument sounds electronic; and the percussion like pieces for drama on the new BSG. I was hoping for something unique in the scores, but like the series itself, looks like Joel couldn't do that either. I hold out hopes the series is opening theme (look forward to that next Friday) is good.
And finally, this fucking shakey cam approach is fucking annoying. I'll give the show two more episodes, but no more than that; I'm not going to waste time like I did with "Dollhouse".
SPOILERS:
Honestly? This is as bad as some many of the episodes of "Dollhouse".
The shifting between current events and events after they happened, didn't bother me, what bothered me was: it was unecessary. It seemed to be nothing more than an attept to make it different from previous SG and make it seem more involved than it really is.
Most of the acting was standard, with a few of what appear to be lead characters, is acting sub par. No one here could ACT worth a toot (why is this becoming more & more prevelent in new shows? It's infuriating). Only Dr. Rush is acting approaches anything good, and so far only his character -- to me -- seems to be of any deeper interest. He's obviously hiding something, and I don't think it's all of best intentions.
The attack on the base? Could it be anymore "Firefly" battle-like based? Its so blatantly obvious. As is their attempt to create an emotional environment and feeling of alone that "Firefly" did. Only thingsm issing are the wester, Chinese elements, and "gorram". But unlike "Firefly", SG:U failed to capture the emotions. Daughter crying out in pain as her dad sacrifices his life? Lousy acting, tears that were not belivable at all. Emotional ride from getting pulled from everything you know and being slowly poisoned to death by your own air supply? Felt not a goddamn thing. They're trying & trying, but it just all falls FLAT. They even try to inject a handful of times some Whedon-esque humor, which works one time, but the others is nothing more thn a smirk; hire some writers from "Firefly" and I think the meotion and humor will improve dramatically.
And the Eli character? A young Joss Whedon.
This is the premise of Voyager, with ideas of "firefly", and then some Battlestar elements mixed in, all the while trying to keep is a SG series.
In my opinion, nothing here is working. Everything is butting heads and the emotion needed, isn't coming out, nor the actors/acrtresses to pull it off.
Joel's score? I hate to say it, but I am disappointed. It's a mixture of -- again -- the "Firefly" quite moments outside the ship, only in SG:U it's got not western feel and the leads string instrument sounds electronic; and the percussion like pieces for drama on the new BSG. I was hoping for something unique in the scores, but like the series itself, looks like Joel couldn't do that either. I hold out hopes the series is opening theme (look forward to that next Friday) is good.
And finally, this fucking shakey cam approach is fucking annoying. I'll give the show two more episodes, but no more than that; I'm not going to waste time like I did with "Dollhouse".