Seven and sexuality
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Seven was technically/physically a virgin despite Auxum and any other lovers she may have taken during her (forgotten) lifetime of adventures as a fully emotionally active woman while summering in Unimatrix Zero nightly, and also any of the extensive life experiences from the unusually silenced individualities she had floating about in her buffer which we saw manifest in Infinite Regress.
(I loved her as that Ferengi, but Anorax was in there too, telling her what to do and how to "Dooooooooo it".)
Sex with a hologram is masturbation or as cleverly planned an accident as horseback riding or sitting on a washing machine with a full load... Unless you want to argue that if the AI has conciousness (grumble grumble SLAVERY!) then that holosex in question is "real" sex and not a solosex aid, but conversely, to have sex with some "humanoid" without conciousness like a(n unfreeed) Borg Drone or a coma patient(Prince Charming made out with a corpse and then was amazed (disappointed?) to find his lover was only in a coma in Snowwhite. Happens all the time.), would that also be masturbatory (and obviously rape) because if anything else a lack of reflection on the matter from half the "active" parties would make the back and forth quite "onesided"?
Did Seven boff the Chakotay Hologram?
(Did Seven of Nine stop, after the real one cowboyed up? She has to practice after all, god forbid the Borgette forgets her lines or some stage directions on opening night. He's been mounting lovers with some success since before she was born and he didn't nap for 2 decades. Anika is in the peewee leagues learning how to catch when her partner is pitching in the world series. That inordinate degree of disparity has to build up some weird inferiority complexes?)
Don't forget that Chakotay "likes" Borg orgies, so he's likely going to want to repeat what he did with Riley and those 5 other dudes when they had sex during that "Healing Collective". The XO would be an absolute coward not to approach his fiancée on the subject.
Though when I was younger my father said to me, "Son, you might want to bed the prom queen, but there's something you have to remember: Ugly Girls try harder. never underestimate an ugly girl if you wind up at last call with far to few options." It's true. The more stunning a girl is the less she has to do to be AMAZING, because a bloke is just incalculably grateful for the opportunity to be let past the bouncer and into the club (I'm going somewhere with this) that he doesn't give a shit about if the DJ is playing the chicken dance, that because of Sevens lack of social conventions/experience she is not entirely aware of how attractive she is or how little she has to do to live up to other peoples expectations of her as a lover, that ignorant of the sliding scale on the social contract, Seven of Nine will "try" 10 times harder (because she doesn't know any better) than any other "10" which will factor out her final score a hotty as a "100" out of ten, ruining the curve, letting the side down and bollocksing it up for all the other gorgeous women just phoning it in.
Simple mathematics.
(I loved her as that Ferengi, but Anorax was in there too, telling her what to do and how to "Dooooooooo it".)
Sex with a hologram is masturbation or as cleverly planned an accident as horseback riding or sitting on a washing machine with a full load... Unless you want to argue that if the AI has conciousness (grumble grumble SLAVERY!) then that holosex in question is "real" sex and not a solosex aid, but conversely, to have sex with some "humanoid" without conciousness like a(n unfreeed) Borg Drone or a coma patient(Prince Charming made out with a corpse and then was amazed (disappointed?) to find his lover was only in a coma in Snowwhite. Happens all the time.), would that also be masturbatory (and obviously rape) because if anything else a lack of reflection on the matter from half the "active" parties would make the back and forth quite "onesided"?
Did Seven boff the Chakotay Hologram?
(Did Seven of Nine stop, after the real one cowboyed up? She has to practice after all, god forbid the Borgette forgets her lines or some stage directions on opening night. He's been mounting lovers with some success since before she was born and he didn't nap for 2 decades. Anika is in the peewee leagues learning how to catch when her partner is pitching in the world series. That inordinate degree of disparity has to build up some weird inferiority complexes?)
Don't forget that Chakotay "likes" Borg orgies, so he's likely going to want to repeat what he did with Riley and those 5 other dudes when they had sex during that "Healing Collective". The XO would be an absolute coward not to approach his fiancée on the subject.
Though when I was younger my father said to me, "Son, you might want to bed the prom queen, but there's something you have to remember: Ugly Girls try harder. never underestimate an ugly girl if you wind up at last call with far to few options." It's true. The more stunning a girl is the less she has to do to be AMAZING, because a bloke is just incalculably grateful for the opportunity to be let past the bouncer and into the club (I'm going somewhere with this) that he doesn't give a shit about if the DJ is playing the chicken dance, that because of Sevens lack of social conventions/experience she is not entirely aware of how attractive she is or how little she has to do to live up to other peoples expectations of her as a lover, that ignorant of the sliding scale on the social contract, Seven of Nine will "try" 10 times harder (because she doesn't know any better) than any other "10" which will factor out her final score a hotty as a "100" out of ten, ruining the curve, letting the side down and bollocksing it up for all the other gorgeous women just phoning it in.
Simple mathematics.
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This thread is like a horrible car wreck.
It's terrible to behold, but you find that you cannot look away from the mangled car parts and human body parts.
I almost feel like I shouldn't be intruding. I mean, I didn't even like Voyager. but, sheesh.
Carry on...
It's terrible to behold, but you find that you cannot look away from the mangled car parts and human body parts.
I almost feel like I shouldn't be intruding. I mean, I didn't even like Voyager. but, sheesh.
Carry on...
Have you considered contraception?
If the Doctor can actually clear a path, so that everything can go in and out, or more accurately up and down, there is still a decent chance that her Borg technology will view any foetus gaining a foothold inside her as an "infesting parasite" it needs to destroy. SuperCyber-Lupus? Now although I am sometimes prone to claim that nanoprobes are shit if they're not sexually tramsmissable, Borg being Borg her autonomic systems are going to be bored of killing babies one at a time baby after baby inside her, and take the matter to task by routhing the contagion at the source over inside the Indian's bollocks. You know like how Pulaskis Superman kids antibodies from a microscopic level killed any one capable of passing on the uncommon spcecold... Her probes going to do something horribly fierce to his sack. Maybe they'll outright kill it, or maybe build some sort of pumping station with some sort of pressure shunt valve that screws out of his scrotum like a periscope to blow his load against his thigh no matter matter where the business end of his sausage is buried?
Death would be far less emasculating.
If the Doctor can actually clear a path, so that everything can go in and out, or more accurately up and down, there is still a decent chance that her Borg technology will view any foetus gaining a foothold inside her as an "infesting parasite" it needs to destroy. SuperCyber-Lupus? Now although I am sometimes prone to claim that nanoprobes are shit if they're not sexually tramsmissable, Borg being Borg her autonomic systems are going to be bored of killing babies one at a time baby after baby inside her, and take the matter to task by routhing the contagion at the source over inside the Indian's bollocks. You know like how Pulaskis Superman kids antibodies from a microscopic level killed any one capable of passing on the uncommon spcecold... Her probes going to do something horribly fierce to his sack. Maybe they'll outright kill it, or maybe build some sort of pumping station with some sort of pressure shunt valve that screws out of his scrotum like a periscope to blow his load against his thigh no matter matter where the business end of his sausage is buried?
Death would be far less emasculating.
I don't think so.EJA said:
Last I checked, Seven had been turned fully human after the Borg were destroyed, was caring for her senile aunt, and was being driven slowly mad by voices in her head.
I dare you to go to the Treklit forum and say that
. Your snarkiness will be swiftly buried under a pile of Christopher's 12-page essays.
You understand that you're just daring me to up the ante?
Chakotay's penis is the wrong size.
True love is about finding the right fit, which is what Cinderella's slipper was really a metaphor about that the smaller or wider or girther or petiette or with kinks and speed bumps her area is, there is out there hypothetically sexual organs that interlock pefertly down there to seven or nine decimal places. (Most of the old fairytales if you look hard enough are just slander against the royals spread by bitter poor people. Cinderella suggests that the Prince has a tiny vagina afraid of anything but the smallest of penises... Don't even get me started on Rupnuzelle.) And no matter how gifted and blessed the Indian may be, this is why I say that Chakotays penis is wrong for her...
The Doctor designed and sculpted her vagina.
The Doctor designed and sculpted her vagina for himself.
In what universe would an AI so amazingly conceited and vain as the Doctor settle for anything near a modest package?
Voyager's CMO has a monster in his pants.
He can probably use it as a belt.
Not only when Chakotay attempts to plough her field will his plough not touch the sides, but there will probably be echoes.
Chakotay's penis is the wrong size.
True love is about finding the right fit, which is what Cinderella's slipper was really a metaphor about that the smaller or wider or girther or petiette or with kinks and speed bumps her area is, there is out there hypothetically sexual organs that interlock pefertly down there to seven or nine decimal places. (Most of the old fairytales if you look hard enough are just slander against the royals spread by bitter poor people. Cinderella suggests that the Prince has a tiny vagina afraid of anything but the smallest of penises... Don't even get me started on Rupnuzelle.) And no matter how gifted and blessed the Indian may be, this is why I say that Chakotays penis is wrong for her...
The Doctor designed and sculpted her vagina.
The Doctor designed and sculpted her vagina for himself.
In what universe would an AI so amazingly conceited and vain as the Doctor settle for anything near a modest package?
Voyager's CMO has a monster in his pants.
He can probably use it as a belt.
Not only when Chakotay attempts to plough her field will his plough not touch the sides, but there will probably be echoes.
Rupnuzelle?
This thread is awesome! I literally laughed out loud! If this thread were a multi-car pile up then each one of Guy Gardener's posts is like a new car that smashes into the pile, adding to the carnage. Please, do continue.
The typo or the whole thing?
Some Prince had to use Princess Rupunzelle's long hair to scale up the side of a tower prison.
They locked a woman inside a penis.
The trip up to get to his true love cannot be described as anything less then "working the shaft".
Though I'm hesitant to say if the ejaculation of her hair from the tip of the tower is really anything overtly sexual.
Wow.
You must have been a joy to have in a high school class.
Though I feel I must guiltily admit (backing up the thread a little) that every time I see that scene of Neelix teaching her to chew, I wonder how she's going to react to... the rest of the story.
You must have been a joy to have in a high school class.
Though I feel I must guiltily admit (backing up the thread a little) that every time I see that scene of Neelix teaching her to chew, I wonder how she's going to react to... the rest of the story.
You weren't here back when I was trying to convince people that Seven's ridiculous catsuits were actually ultra efficient Still-Suits like from Dune which might not be at absolute right angles to the truth since that Doctor did say that the wardrobe he designed was to help the lady to regulate her body functions.
There are no Borg Bathrooms.
(Never a line I have heard in Star Trek "TARGET THEIR BATHROOMS! TORPEDOES! FULL SPREAD!")
So like a wetsuit uses a layer of water under the layer of rubber to regulate temperature, Seven would have a consistency of poohs and wees (probably condensed and pressured to enhance her physical strength with "wastedrollics") slooshing about inside the veins and clockwork of her sill-suit.
Now think of the smell.
(That smell is why harry backed off when she attempted to seduce him. Sure, she was great to covert from afar, but up close takes a braver man than Harry Kim.)
(This next bit is new.)
Consider in Q2 when q(Lower case! THAT's funny. ) stripped her naked with his magic if she had no automatic or autonomic control of her poohs and wees without her still-suit?
The floors to Astrometrics would have looked and smelt like a piggery's rutting dock.
(No wonder it took her 4 years to find a boyfriend.)
(have you see the Red Dwarf episode set in the Backwards Universe where the cat shat in reverse?)
(if Q hadn't given Neelix a new Mouth, it might have come to pass that Neelix would have been taught to eat like a Borg and Seven, quid pro quo, after a fashion would have had to have taught Neelix how to eat what with the shoe being on the other foot, or more accurately the mouth not being on the other face.)
There are no Borg Bathrooms.
(Never a line I have heard in Star Trek "TARGET THEIR BATHROOMS! TORPEDOES! FULL SPREAD!")
So like a wetsuit uses a layer of water under the layer of rubber to regulate temperature, Seven would have a consistency of poohs and wees (probably condensed and pressured to enhance her physical strength with "wastedrollics") slooshing about inside the veins and clockwork of her sill-suit.
Now think of the smell.
(That smell is why harry backed off when she attempted to seduce him. Sure, she was great to covert from afar, but up close takes a braver man than Harry Kim.)
(This next bit is new.)
Consider in Q2 when q(Lower case! THAT's funny.
) stripped her naked with his magic if she had no automatic or autonomic control of her poohs and wees without her still-suit?The floors to Astrometrics would have looked and smelt like a piggery's rutting dock.
(No wonder it took her 4 years to find a boyfriend.)
(have you see the Red Dwarf episode set in the Backwards Universe where the cat shat in reverse?)
(if Q hadn't given Neelix a new Mouth, it might have come to pass that Neelix would have been taught to eat like a Borg and Seven, quid pro quo, after a fashion would have had to have taught Neelix how to eat what with the shoe being on the other foot, or more accurately the mouth not being on the other face.)
I'm pretty sure that's a South Park episode. Sort of.
Dear Lord, what the hell has happened to this thread?!! All I wanted to know was why Seven's attitude towards sex and relationships changed between "Revulsion" and "Someone To Watch Over Me", not all this about, ahem, waste extraction, and, erm....Borg sterilization techniques.
It's like a TNZ thread in here...
I dare you to go to the Treklit forum and say that
No need to go in there. They know their place.
You're so mealy-mouthed Guy. Call a shitter a shitter why don't you? For the record there are none in Star Trek full stop.
No, no, I was suggesting that he had some (borg) hardware installed and "ate" via "regeneration" like how Borg receive nourishment since a great deal of the apparatus he used to consume food with had been replace with a seamless clot of flesh.
Now the other reference about the Cat shitting in reverse because he was in a backwards universe (If he stayed in the backwards Universe long enough he would have crawled up into a va-jaja and inmitosised into sperm then swam back into his daddy... This is the universe where Santa Claus was the bastard who stole all the kids presents on Christmas eve.) is quite like the South park Episode you're talking about except that it aired about 10 years before South Park started.
....
Seven doesn't like to be programmed.
Wants to be an individual.
How do you think she's going to react when Seven of Nine discovers that an Austrian and a Swiss national born in the 19th century thought it was effeminately predictable that she wanted to boff her Father (Chukles) and consequently it was only a matter of time till she wanted to kill her mother (Janeway.)? Which makes her part of a regulated throng because she is critically uninspired enough to give in to her weakest and almost elementary desires, as if to say that she was still a Seven or Nine (I'm recycling jokes, sue me.) year old girl for the most part without all that Borg padding to her personality and boobies.
Is Seven of Nine's libido strong enough to fight discredited 20th century Psychological theory?
How weak is Anika 3.0 to give into the human animal inside her if she has been advised to disregard the Borg inside her? Surely she's going to be confused by everything trying to get inside her claiming to be in her best interest? If anything inside her is the enemy then everything inside her is the enemy. She has to say no to animals trying to get inside her until she can tell the difference between good and bad.
Hell, even the Doctor can write his own code and he's only programmed to make it seem that he is real for entertainment value. the Blonde is less real than a fricking light bulb.
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They talked about waste reprocessing as a department/area on DS9, they make poop from Boots on Archer's Enterprise and Zephram Cochrane went for a "leak" in the forest near where his Statue would one day be.
They say (Eddington complaining) that Replicators resequence biomass. What is Biomass but either rubbish or shit? "Eat recycled Food" was a good joke on (the original?) Judge Dredd but not only has recycled food always been used on Star Trek, but it exemplifies the Joke about the german Comandant adressessing his new POW's "Good news and Bad news, the bad new is that there is shit for dinner... But the good new is: That there is plenty of it!"
For replicators to be worth their salt, I'm positive that a "Bowl" can maybe "wind out" of any unit and a citizen can deposit shit directly into the replicator for the common good since with out a constant flow of shit, the federation would surely crumble from the weight of it's own scarcity just like we have problems with oil and power.
So... You've actually seen hundreds of shitters on Star trek, hidden in plain sight.
(Jake and his Pa in Exlporers in that Bajoran solarsail ship?)
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You know how it's almost rude to use some one elses crapper? Dinner guest, knocking on a strangers door? You don't want to be blamed for leaving a mess or using the wrong soap? Then there's the smell. It's just awkward.
In the future if the future is how I see it (like bees crosspollinating) individuals will want their friends and strangers to shit in their replicators in their home to Russian roulette their next "home cooked" meal from degrees of autocannibalism to just plain ordinary cannibalism.
It's the decent thing to do.
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If Seven couldn't poop then she would have less value as a human being and less value as a prospective mate. The EFFICIENCY of her Borg biology didn't allow for the necessity of metricating her own waste products (if any) into/alongside the crews waste into one huge useful stew of potential replicatable "goods" and "consumables".
Until she learnt how to poop Seven was a parasite and a burden... It's like those billionaire assholes who weasel out of paying millions in taxes while the system/country is breaking down and running on empty. Seven of Nine was a deadbeat.
No wonder it took her four years to get a boyfriend.
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