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Seven and sexuality

EJA

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Any idea why it is that in early episodes like "Revulsion", Seven is totally unfazed by the idea of sex with another person, but in later stories she's quite awkward and unsure when it comes to having relationships?
 
Well, there's plain old "copulation," as she puts it, and then there's relationships. :) Those are pretty different things, especially with someone of her emotional maturity.

She knows her birds and bees, but that's about it.

(Or maybe she just enjoyed freaking out Harry Kim.)
 
The writers decided that their target audience wouldn't be able to handle a sexually assertive woman in deed as well as offhand remark.
 
Because as Seven’s humanity began to reassert itself, she began to realize there was a difference between “sex” and “relationships,” and, not having even had a friend before, having a close emotional relationship was understandably frightening to her. The early Seven would’ve (and did) dismiss relationships as “irrelevant."
 
I don't know the answer to this, but seeing the title made me think this would have made a great episode--a send-up of Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility. As long as it wasn't a holodeck episode.
 
Have you ever been told the story of the birds and the bees?

Not sex ed, litterally told the allegory?

it's not about the mechanics of sex it's about how you can get want you want and force the other sex to do what you want.

Power and control.

Birds and Bees want nectar. To get the nectar without their knowledge or permissions the flower they violate to get a good feed doeses them with pollen using them as a sex mule to fertilize their sexy nieghbours perpetuating the species and their sexual imperative.

Classically/historically Boys and Girls are taught different morals from this same story...

To girls: Keep talking about the nectar and the lads will forget about about the pollen until it's too late and they have to support you for the rest of their lives.

To Boys: keep moving. Pollen is every where. You take the nectar and run. if you stay too long hoping for second or third helpings, getting greedy: They'll trap you FOREVER!

I wonder how Seven would react to such Bizarre logic?
 
Any idea why it is that in early episodes like "Revulsion", Seven is totally unfazed by the idea of sex with another person, but in later stories she's quite awkward and unsure when it comes to having relationships?

I got the impression that early on, Seven was only doing what she thought was expected of her. Later on, she understood everything better and thus reacted differently.

That, or inconsistant writing.
 
I like this a lot...
Because as Seven’s humanity began to reassert itself, she began to realize there was a difference between “sex” and “relationships,” and, not having even had a friend before, having a close emotional relationship was understandably frightening to her. The early Seven would’ve (and did) dismiss relationships as “irrelevant."
But probably this...
or inconsistant writing.
 
Any idea why it is that in early episodes like "Revulsion", Seven is totally unfazed by the idea of sex with another person, but in later stories she's quite awkward and unsure when it comes to having relationships?

I got the impression that early on, Seven was only doing what she thought was expected of her. Later on, she understood everything better and thus reacted differently.

That, or inconsistant writing.

You mean like the 5 or 6 out of 170some-odd episodes in which several dozen crewmembers suddenly remember that they are Maquis? ;)
 
Because as Seven's humanity began to reassert itself, she began to realize there was a difference between “sex” and “relationships,”

'Humanity' has problems making this distinction IRL, so that can't be it.
 
How about this?

She knew what to do "innately" in the early episodes because of Unimatrix Zero.

Little orphan Annie didn't get herself removed from the collective to find that she was still an 8 year old girl in a 27 year old woman's body, no she didn't, Blondy had emerged as a fully grown and matured personality after spending a lifetime in AI as a regular human being doing regular nonBorg things like taking on lovers and having meaningful friendships, hatreds and struggles, which all equated to some sort of sub personality which mingled with the default settings the Borg leave behind for their baby with the bathwater escaped drones.

The Borgettes subconscious was fully formed and it could easily autopilot her through anything Voyager's crew had to task her with.

However.

You can only coast so long before the wave breaks. Disconnection form the collective meant disconnection form Unimatrix Zero. the longer Seven was removed from her experiences as Anika in Unimatrix Zero the more she forgot about that life until there was northing left inside her like her soul had become some sort of yapping empty maw.

Seven had to relearn everything for real in the real world as she was forgetting what she learnt in the fake world which is I am sure a differential equation to say the least that she is learning newly while forgetting that her personality is intermixing at utterly different ratios producing a very different finished product depending on how much X and Y she has on tap.
 
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Seven has no business thinking about sex at all. My God, it took her two months just to find out about EATING.
 
Seven has no business thinking about sex at all. My God, it took her two months just to find out about EATING.

But judging by her figure, she figured out purging right away.:guffaw:

Consideration for how difficult it would be for the girl to poop is why they had her on liquid foods for so long... Though if she was smarter than she was brave, then Seven would have been manually extract her poop with the transporter delaying the loss of her ass cherry for as long as possible.
 
Have any of the writers of the spin-off literature ever attempted to address this issue (The sex/relationship one, not the pooping!!)?
 
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