The Borg baby was intended to go down to the planet with the Borg children. We can assumed it was beamed down separately. The scene was dropped at scripting stage because the producers figured most viewers had forgotten all about the baby.
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The Borg baby was intended to go down to the planet with the Borg children. We can assumed it was beamed down separately. The scene was dropped at scripting stage because the producers figured most viewers had forgotten all about the baby.
The baby is a sticking point. Whatever the producers intended, one story was that the Baby was returned to it's parents before the very next episode it jad debuted in, but they left the door open to maniacs making assumptions since there's no canon either way. 
There was a Baby?
There was a baby whose incubator/maturation chamber malfunctioned. Seven persuaded the other Borg children to allow her to beam the baby to Voyager, which she did. The last we saw of the baby was the Doctor and Janeway cuddling it in Sickbay. No further mention or reference of any kind was made of this Borg baby.
However, I've read a fanfic story that mentions the Borg baby was eventually adopted by a young couple on Janeway's crew and given the name "Valerie."
Presumably the baby survived all the way to Earth and was hopefully reunited with her biological family.
However, I've read a fanfic story that mentions the Borg baby was eventually adopted by a young couple on Janeway's crew and given the name "Valerie."
Presumably the baby survived all the way to Earth and was hopefully reunited with her biological family.
OK I remember ...It had little baby Borg implants right? Whatever happend to baby Borg? indeed.
Janeway was absolutely expecting people to pair. What surprises me is that they didn't. There's only one crew member that she even cared about in regards to whether they had a relationship, and that was Seven.
Remember this:
I stand by J/7. I think that, if Seven was going to be interested in anyone romantically, it would be she... not Icheb.
An Icheb and 7og9 romance would be like Wesley and Beverly Crusher developing a romance, just doesn't work
I like 7/Doc 7/Paris or nobody...If they were really concerned about certain viewers they would have left 7 single which really is 7/Fanboys
Forcing her with Chakotay just comes off as very Soap Opera or Bev Hills 90120.
Forcing her with Chakotay just comes off as very Soap Opera or Bev Hills 90120.
O. That easily sounds like Janeway's period is late.
I'm just happy that she was smart enough to take Harrry out of the running for consideration n Some One to Watch Over You.
There's a lot of light teasing going on in that scene. I hardly think that qualifies as blaming something negative on a woman's PMS. 
I do think it demonstrates that late in the series Janeway was thinking about Seven's idea of an intimate relationship... like many of us on the outside were. Again, I don't think J/7 is the most fantastic pairing. I just think it would have been the most likely.
I do think it demonstrates that late in the series Janeway was thinking about Seven's idea of an intimate relationship... like many of us on the outside were. Again, I don't think J/7 is the most fantastic pairing. I just think it would have been the most likely.
While I see the J/7 relationship as mentor/student or mother/daughter given how the subtext could be read otherwise it strikes me as more likely than C/7. I remain at heart a J/Cer though.
There's a lot of light teasing going on in that scene. I hardly think that qualifies as blaming something negative on a woman's PMS.
Hardly. I was suggesting that the text taken out of context, that what she said, sounded like Janeway was in the middle of a pregnancy scare herself. I've heard the "I'm late" speech, and 12 years later there's this little blond thing still calling me daddy.
I would have loved to see Icheb and Seven hook after she admits that it's all been a huge act, and everyone fell for it because they never cared to ask about her feelings or fears. That when the Borg released her to be their avatar, that despite her technical knowledge she was still very much in every way still a 8 year old little girl... Which would be the explanation for her early infatuation with Kim. So in fact Icheb is a little older than she is and in the beginning she must have had some identity issues that from her perspective she'd increased 20 dress sizes over night and adults who used to be towering above her deserving fear and respect, were now doll like in stature.
While I see the J/7 relationship as mentor/student or mother/daughter given how the subtext could be read otherwise it strikes me as more likely than C/7. I remain at heart a J/Cer though.
I was all over J/C in the early seasons. It died for me at Scorpion Part I.
While I see the J/7 relationship as mentor/student or mother/daughter given how the subtext could be read otherwise it strikes me as more likely than C/7. I remain at heart a J/Cer though.
I was all over J/C in the early seasons. It died for me at Scorpion Part I.
Was it the "I guess I'm alone after all." scene?
For me I got into it about the time of "Timeless" which is suppose is pretty backwards compared to other J/Cers.
It was the 'she's not conscious so I'll just go ahead with my own plans and throw us all into more danger because I think what she did was stupid even though we're only halfway through her plan and stopping now could kill us all' thing that did it for me, actually. 
Totally an act of bad faith.
He should have had the moral fortitude to wait till she was dead. Seriously, the day after she dies, there's going to be an enormous line of people who want to piss on her grave. Head of the Queue is going to be Noah Lessing.
Wikipedia says that the story was a collaboration of Joe and Brannon... and the production team doesn't seem all too different from IMDB, so I'm not wondering if some power struggle didn't happen behind the camera like with Basics, how some of the story lines were reversed between season calling for rewrites... Y'know apart from People Magazine giving Wang a stay of execution.
He should have had the moral fortitude to wait till she was dead. Seriously, the day after she dies, there's going to be an enormous line of people who want to piss on her grave. Head of the Queue is going to be Noah Lessing.
Wikipedia says that the story was a collaboration of Joe and Brannon... and the production team doesn't seem all too different from IMDB, so I'm not wondering if some power struggle didn't happen behind the camera like with Basics, how some of the story lines were reversed between season calling for rewrites... Y'know apart from People Magazine giving Wang a stay of execution.
It was the 'she's not conscious so I'll just go ahead with my own plans and throw us all into more danger because I think what she did was stupid even though we're only halfway through her plan and stopping now could kill us all' thing that did it for me, actually.
I guess that's what separates the goods from the greats.
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